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DISCO S5 has been phenomenal

Two episodes to go. I'm gutted this is going to be the end, just as the show truly found its stride and grew the beard. Feels a lot like the end of Enterprise. Every season has been better than the last, and the earlier episodes were pretty good. I recently started rewatching S1 after getting an IRL friend into it and he's...

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Agreed on all counts! I was personally not a big fan of S1-S3 at all, but S4 really blew me away and this season is even better. It really sucks that they decided to stop it after it finally found it's flow. Like you said I am at least glad they experimented with something different.

I’m sorry so many of the fans are haters.

The motivation of the people that watch a show they don't even like, then write about it online just blows my mind.

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I think season one did everything great except the plot which felt like they were trying to do 100 things at once. I was happy to see by time season 4 came around they calmed down and focused on one story much better.

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So glad to see this opinion, I think season four is one of the best seasons of trek out there, and it's weird because I think 1-3 are not great at all. I feel the same way about Enterprise.

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Definitely. Zero complaints with the score, sets, uniforms, etc.

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Sonequa gave possibly her best performance of the whole series in this episode. I know everyone makes fun of how much Burhnam cries, and like- it is a lot, but this time it really felt like she was being maximally vulnerable.

Also I really liked the Klingon(?) lady. Did not expect that to be her personality based on the promo pics.

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WTF

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This is the second time Book’s extrasensory abilities have been the key to solving one of the clues, the first being in “Jinaal”.

Yeah he's gonna die in the finale isn't he

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Star Trek (derogatory)

I can feel what this means in my gut

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This is a great question. I like to recommend Data's Day for newbies because he sort of goes around and introduces every character, but it's a pretty unconventional episode.

I think I would go with "Doomsday Machine"!

That said, I also think Darmok would be a good fit too, the concept itself is unique in that as far as I know it's the first it was used in science fiction, but the manner in which the concept is presented "Enterprise crew encounters a problem that can't be solved with guns or technology" is pretty darn representative.

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Sometimes I think Star Trek did Sub Rosa just to prove they didn't need to include their usual copius amounts of nudity in order to create something extremely erotic.

It's like the story about how Hitchcock didn't give "The Birds" a soundtrack after someone said his movies were only scary because of the music.

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Ironically, being a comedy episode it's not very representative!

Corgana ,
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Good point! I forgot that it was mostly the two of them on the planet. It is also somewhat unusual in that there is no distinct B-plot. The events that take place in orbit are directly related.

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I picked "Doomsday Machine" but Corbomite Maneuver is also really good. Classic in multiple senses of the word.

Canon Connections: DIS 5x06 - Whistlespeak

• Doctor Kovich gives Burnham a list of the five scientists who had the task of researching the Progenitor technology, three of whom we’ve already learned about. The remaining two are a Denobulan, Hitoroshi Kreel, and a Betazoid named Marina DeRex. The first Betazoid we were introduced to in Trek was TNG’s Deanna Troi,...

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I remember when new uniform variants meant it was a new series (or at least a new admiral).

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WTF

Were the [REDACTED] also a result of the Progenitors? DIS s5 spoilers

So, the plot in season five of Disco is hunting down clues left behind by scientists who uncovered the technology left behind by a precursor race of alien beings who panspermiad their genetics all over the galaxy, resulting in all your favourite humanoids, like humans, Klingons, Romulans, and Cardassians, as seen in the TNG...

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I had a similar thought. So far Disco (unlike in "The Chase") has implied that the progenitors seeded all life. I have a feeling it's meant to throw us off the trail a bit.

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Especially in this season it so obvious how Tilly’s intelligence manifests in being able to bypass entire complexes of prejudice and social norms (perceived and unconscious, spoken and unspoken) whether they be human or alien, and get right to the point with somebody. In an organization that is constantly trying to establish trust with a variety of unknown actors, Tilly is an incredible asset.

Very well said!

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I tried to find out more about the guy who made it but he hasn't posted to BBS since 2020, has a suspended reddit account, and a deleted Twitter.

I have to imagine someone that trekkish is at least familiar with Our Website so fingers crossed someone might know him because I would totally get one of these too.

Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Discovery | 5x06 "Whistlespeak"

LoglineWhile undercover in a pre-warp society, Captain Burnham is forced to consider breaking the Prime Directive when a local tradition threatens Tilly’s life. Meanwhile, Culber tries to connect with Stamets, and Adira steps up when Rayner assigns them a position on the bridge....

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Culber's newfound spirituality arc felt kinda shoehorned in as an odd piece of character development in a show that's about to end. I actually initially really enjoyed that he felt weird about hosting a Trill spirit (Trek has a habit of stuff getting right back to normal after a traumatic experience) but it's dragged on without a clear direction as to what it means. I have to assume it will become relevant to the main plot at some point. Discovery surely wouldn't leave weird thread dangling, right? Right?

The whole idea of a humanoid habitat built around a semi-functioning weather control network was cool. Though I would have loved to have seen the dead civilization around the tower they eventually go to!

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idk Stamets seemed pretty receptive and understanding, I think Culber was moreso unsure because he sees himself as a "man with all the answers" and didn't like the vulnerability that came with showing his partner a side that's unsure and not confident. That's how it seemed to me at least.

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I liked that at no point Burhnam spoke down to the town leader dude by going "actually yes we are gods now open the door I'll explain later" even though in the short-term it would have been faster.

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Yeah totally. I think the glibness is coming from a place of experience. Like he knows Culber will get there eventually, but there are no words that will help. Like the whole trying to tell a queer teenager "it gets better" thing.

Canon Connections: DIS 5x05 - Mirrors

• The episode title references the mirror universe, a dark reflection of the familiar reality of Star Trek where humans, or Terrans as they’re more commonly called there, evolved to be more sensitive to light, resulting in everyone tending more towards malevolence, and barbarism, and queer coded villainy. Other episodes...

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”That was my brother’s station, aboard the USS Enterprise.”

I enjoyed how Star Trek Continues did a follow-up episode with Mirror-Spock leading a mutiny

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I WANT A REFUND

(And don't' tell me they don't use money in the 23rd century)

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But Kirk told the pretty lady they don't

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I enjoyed the Breen being a mysterious weird thing, and they mostly still are. But the "reveal" inasmuch as it was, I thought was pretty cool and while it took away some mystery, it added some too.

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Again with the Tzenkethi!

Canon Connections: DIS 5x04 - Face the Strange

• The arms merchant whom we see Moll and L’ak dealing with appears to be an Annari, who were introduced in the VOY episode, “Nightingale”, which I mention only because I believe it is the first time we’ve seen a member of Delta Quadrant species in DIS, though not the first mention....

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The arms merchant whom we see Moll and L’ak dealing with appears to be an Annari

Wow, good eye. And very interesting!

Burnham convinces Airiam she’s genuine by telling Airiam she sacrifices her life to save everyone else in “Project Daedalus”, an act that none of the rest of the crew believe Airiam would perform.

This made laugh. The entire crew is all "Nah not Ariam she sucks! She would 100% take the money and run leaving us all to die" and then when she's like "No actually I would die for you jerks" they get all pikachuface.

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I was not a big fan until season 4 which I loved for it's slower pacing and overall themes, but I'm enjoying this one a lot for totally different reasons, like the ones you mentioned. Disco's cast really lends itself to "fun", on the rare times it attempts it.

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Ash Tyler would have been pretty special.

Funny way of spelling Voq!

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Especially because of the Book scene!

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These posts are the Fediverse's killer app, imo.

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Culber is reminding anyone in the audience who may have forgotten that despite being human, Burnham was raised on Vulcan

Y'know, I was wondering if this central aspect to her entire character would ever come up again.

Corgana OP ,
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Me too weirdly. I have watched the Kelvinverse movies all exactly once, but this doesn't sound so bad.

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...Maybe a little Bakula

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"Star Trek: Scotty played by Scottish actor for first time"

Nice interview, very very light spoiler stuff if you're trying to go into next season stone cold unknowing.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c72kn4gzq8no

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Corgana ,
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Where are the people complaining that he was only cast because of his race?

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One of my biggest regrets is not making it to The Experience when I could have.

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I liked how at the end Culber was shaken by the whole "being a host to another consciousness" experience and needed a minute to process it. Every time someone goes through a life-changing thing in Star Trek they're right as rain by the end of the episode. Like when Sisko hosted Joran Dax (the murder-ey one) he kept the feelings buried inside. I don't think it's a coincidence that some time later he poisoned the atmosphere of Solosos III because of something Eddington said about him on the internet.

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Conveniently sidestepping the question of sleep...

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This is awesome I had no idea they had these sorts of things. Thanks for sharing.

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