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Marx explained this very phenomenon in Das Kapital. Creating jobs is a meaningless metric when employers aren’t required to pay people a living wage. Minimum wage in US is nowhere close to being livable at this point, and what happens is that people are simply having to get multiple full time jobs to pay their bills. In fact, 37% of the population is now working two full time jobs now.

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more are getting hired because jobs aren’t paying a living wage and people are forced to have multiple jobs to pay bills fool.com/…/could-you-handle-more-than-one-full-ti…

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Trump is obviously running on the border as his linchpin issue, why is anybody expecting republicans to make some kind of a deal given that would undermine their candidate?

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US is literally the reason there are no progressive and democratic governments in the Middle East. The reason being that actually democratic governments work in the interest of their people as opposed to the interests of the empire. US overthrew a progressive and democratic government in Iran was because they nationalized their oil. What the empire actually cares about is extracting labour and resources from the rest of the world.

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Welcome to the world that neoliberalism built.

yogthos,
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Biden loves genocide so much that he’s willing to to any length to keep it going.

yogthos,
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The system is working as intended. Genocide Joe is making sure that people whom he represents are making money, and fuck the rest you losers.

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This interpretation of the law is completely is completely absurd, and it will obviously be overturned once it gets to the supreme court. You can read the 14th amendment clause yourself and see in black and white what cases it applies to. It’s worded in a very specific way:

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Only thing that’s been accomplished here is to bolster Trump’s claims that there’s a political witch hunt against him and to galvanize his supporters.

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This argument takes wild and unprecedented liberties with the interpretation of the law. It’s basically ignoring what the law actually says, and claims that it was written wrong. That’s an absurd claim to make. And coupled with the fact that Trump hasn’t actually been convicted of anything, this amounts to a complete farce. There’s very clearly no sound legal basis for any of this, and it’s obvious to anybody who’s able to look at this objectively.

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If you genuinely believe all that then you must also believe that this argument will stand up in the Supreme Court. Factually speaking, Trump has never been convicted of engaging in insurrection. That’s the real world we live in. In any case, if you don’t understand that this is a political prosecution that delegitimizes the very basis of trust in elections then you better buckle up because you’re in for some very exciting times ahead.

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He. Was. Caught. On. Tape. Committing. Felonies.

Address that fact if you want to appear as if your judgment in the matter isn’t compromised by your politics and your bias.

That’s not how the legal system works I’m afraid. To give you an example of why this doesn’t work, let’s take a look at the Russiagate conspiracy theory that many people still fervently believe today. Turns out it was complete and utter nonsense:

Special counsel Robert Mueller concluded that President Trump and his campaign didn’t conspire or coordinate with Russia to interfere in the 2016 election, according to a letter Attorney General William Barr sent to Congress on Sunday that summarized the final report on Mr. Mueller’s investigation.

That’s why actual proper process is important for a legal system to work properly. If people are simply convicted in the court of public opinion because enough people believe something to be true, that’s a kangaroo court. And that’s precisely where US legal system is now headed.

Just to make it clear for you here, I’m not debating with you whether Trump is indeed guilty of insurrection or not here. What I’m telling you is that due process to prove this fact HAS NOT BEEN DONE, and absent that the whole thing becomes an utter clown show.

Address that fact if you want to appear as if your judgment in the matter isn’t compromised by your politics and your bias.

Hopefully I addressed your slander in a way you can understand, but I’ve been trying to explain this to you in many different ways already and I’m sure this won’t get through either.

Haven’t really heard a roadmap from you folks about what a non-political prosecution of Trump would look like.

Yes, you have actually. Once again, there’s this thing called due process that’s being ignored here.

I don’t pretend to know what the Supreme Court will do with the case, but I do know that the trust in them to do the right thing is at an all-time low in this country. They’ve been in a legitimacy crisis ever since overturning Roe v. Wade and their failures to disclose financial conflicts of interest have only made it worse.

And you’re already making excuses for when this argument obviously gets rejected. However, you’re once again supporting the actual point I’m making. Americans are losing faith in the legality of their system. This applies to both democrats and republicans. The more people think that the process is rigged, that the courts are stacked by partisans, and that the elections are being stolen the less reason they have to abide by the results. The whole thing is just a social contract where people agree to let the party they didn’t vote for rule because they believe that they won fair and square. As soon as that belief is gone, then all bets are off and best of luck to you.

You seem like you have a lot to sort out, best of luck with that.

You’re projecting here my friend. I don’t even live in your shithole country. I’m just watching it tear itself apart from the outside. You’re the one who has to sort out the fact that you don’t think your legal system works, and that you don’t think the person who’s most likely to become president will win legitimately.

yogthos,
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There’s been years of investigation, and NOTHING of substance has been produced. The fact that you’re still clinging to this conspiracy theory really says volumes. This has been one of the most successful propaganda campaigns in US history, and it’s still paying dividends today.

Why are you wasting people’s time with your half-informed takes then? It’s pretty arrogant for you to act like you know what you’re talking about when you so clearly don’t.

You’re like a poster child for the Dunning-Kruger syndrome.

In any case, it’s pretty clear that no constructive discussion is possible here. I’ll just let you watch what happens and then rationalize it in whatever way helps you sleep at night. However, your country is rapidly falling apart, and that’s going to keep happening whether you accept it or not. Best of luck to you. You’ll need it.

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