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Prouvaire ,

It's worth remembering that due to the way federation works, if an instance starts federating this magazine for the first time after this post was made, people on that instance won't see this post.

HandsHurtLoL OP ,

Is this true even if it is pinned?

Prouvaire ,

As far as I can tell, yes.

ActivityPub, it seems to me, was designed more for time-centric social media like Twitter/Mastodon than content-centric media like Reddit/Lemmy/kbin.

HandsHurtLoL OP ,

I'm not exactly clear how to bridge this concern at this time. I have raised concern to the mod team, and we are still discussing how things are going to eventually be deployed in terms of features here on kbin.social.

What I will say is when I go to browse All, I get to look at communities in the Lemmy sphere that I'm not subscribed to. And when I click on the link to the community hosted on a Lemmy instance, I can see previous post history from other users without being subscribed to that community. I can't tell why that's not happening in the reverse for Lemmy users who are coming to our magazine.

Edit to add: I think this means much more of a concern for future instances that will eventually be created that federate here, as opposed to current members of instances who have yet to subscribe to our magazine. So that gives me a little bit of hope since the creation of instances will probably be quite slow at first in the Fediverse.

Prouvaire , (edited )

It's all a little confusing. Here's my understanding of how things work, though I can't claim to be an expert so may have gotten something wrong:

  • A community's home instance will always have the complete history of a community/magazine. So if you click on a lemmy community or kbin magazine and end up on that community/magazine's home server (eg lemmy.world or startrek.website or fedia.io - the first two being lemmy instances and fedia being a kbin instance), you will always see everything, including any pinned posts. The critical distinction is that you're viewing the community not on YOUR server (eg kbin.social), but on the HOME instance of that community (ie lemmy.world or whatever). Here's an example of a community on another server: https://startrek.website/c/startrek
  • If you are NOT on that community/magazine's home instance, ie, if you're on kbin.social, but someone had already subscribed to that community/magazine from your server (ie someone from kbin.social subscribed to [email protected] or whatever) than you will be able to see all posts from whatever date that initial person first subscribed. So if you are on kbin.social (like me), and looking at [email protected] while on kbin.social then you will see all posts from whatever date someone from kbin.social first subscribed to that community and kicked off the federation process. I assume this also means that you will see any pinned posts, as long as that post was created after that first federation. Here's an example of that startrek community, but viewed on kbin.social: https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]
  • However if nobody on your instance has subscribed to a community/magazine before, you first need to subscribe to that community/magazine from your home instance (ie kbin.social), and from that moment on only new posts will be seen in the feed for that community while you're on your server (ie kbin.social). If you want to see the complete history, including any posts pinned before that first federation, you need to visit that community's home instance.

Not sure if I've explained all this clearly, it's probably something best represented using diagrams.

Anyway, the way I've tried to address this for my little Musicals community, is to include the pinned post (in my case a "Welcome" post), and where to find the complete history, in the community description, like so:

For lovers, performers and creators of musical theatre (or theater). Broadway, off-Broadway, the West End, other parts of the US and UK, and musicals around the world. Welcome post: https://tinyurl.com/kbinMusicals See all/older posts here: https://kbin.social/m/Musicals/

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  • [email protected]
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