NEWS: Patriot Front sues left-wing activist who infiltrated the hate group and named members ( www.rawstory.com )

The white supremacist group Patriot Front is suing a left-wing activist for allegedly infiltrating the group and revealing the identities of members, USA Today reported. The lawsuit says the alleged "doxxings" cost the members their jobs and personal relationships. As USA Today points out, Patriot F...

Unaware7013 ,

The funny thing about free speech is that naming who is part of a hate group can likely be argued as free speech moreso than "whaaah, we got fired for the awful shit we said", given that it's called freedom of speech and not freedom from the consequences of my speech. Doubly so when you're talking about consequences brought about by a private organization/not the government. After all, their place of employment has freedom of speech rights too, as well as the ability to choose who they associate with.

grue ,

It’s always projection.

Jaysyn OP ,
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Fuck these fascists.

style99 ,
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The hypocrisy of these groups is showing:

The suit claims Capito joined Patriot Front using a false identity and accessed the group's computer databases to access private information, which he then shared with friendly activists and hackers.

"This confidential information was then widely published and used to harass and threaten the Plaintiffs, with the aim, and result, of doxxing them and other Patriot Front members and causing them serious harm," the lawsuit says.

They do this sort of thing all the time to the trans community.

chaogomu ,

Right-wing mentality says that it's alright when they do something, but if you do it back to them, that's cheating and shouldn't be allowed. You know, spoiled 5-year-old shit.

Aesthesiaphilia ,

Which is why this makes me a bit uneasy

Sure, when it happens to Nazis, fuck em, they're scum

But like...I'll bet some of you reading are Communists. There's a lot of employers who would fire you for affiliating with communist groups. Or pro-union groups.

I don't like the precedent of ruining someone's life because it can easily be turned around on you.

anon6789 ,

When you take a job, you have a good idea of what behavior can get you fired. You can get fired most places just because. I think it’s good to make it clear joining a Nazi club is one of those behaviors that’s going to get you fired. All this pussyfooting is encouraging them from these nobodies so the way up to the last president.

Aesthesiaphilia ,

Okay but talking about a union is another type of behavior that can get you fired.

I'm just saying it's a can of worms and it will be difficult to draw the line at Nazis alone

anon6789 ,

I agree it’s wrong to fire people for organizing a union, but that line doesn’t exist to begin with. Companies can and will continue to do that. I don’t agree with it, but that’s the way it currently is. I’m not sure if it’s been established you’re not allowed to be a Nazi outside of your typical “behavior not becoming of an XYZcorp employee” that they can use to legally fire you for anything they’re want I’m just saying we should make it clear that this specific behavior, joining Nazi clubs, is clearly a valid offense.

Again, 100 percent in agreement with you, but it’s not such a slippery slope issue when employees were never anywhere near the top of that slope to begin with, so we may as well hammer it home when we’ve identified a specific legal but unacceptable behavior.

lowdownfool ,
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You open a can of maggots when you treat nazis with kid gloves. Personally, I don't care about the argument "oh it could happen to us if we're meanies to nazis!"

Nougat ,

The lawsuit says the alleged "doxxings" cost the members their jobs and personal relationships.

Uhhh ... if the revealing of members caused those members to lose their jobs, it's because their employers determined that they don't want to employ Patriot Front members. Last I checked, without a specific contract, employment is at will.

xc2215x ,

True employers have the right to fire people.

snooggums ,
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Being a shithead is not a protected class.

Deceptichum , (edited )
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Tell that to the police.

As in they’re shitheads protected by the law.

diskmaster23 ,

ASAB. All shitheads are bastards.

Deceptichum ,
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Assigned Shithead At Birth

Nougat ,

Ass Shit Ass Bitch

nvimdiesel ,
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Lol they lost their jobs because they're racist scumbags, not because of the doxxing

akai ,
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Fuckin' Old Navy Nazis

xc2215x ,

Not surprised relationships are ending.

Otome-chan ,
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Their jobs? You mean their government jobs? Patriot Front are feds yeah?

Jaysyn OP ,
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You forgot this "/s".

subignition ,
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They were likely not sarcastic, that user is at best severely mentally ill, but probably some kind of troll or disinformation worker.

HandsHurtLoL ,

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xilliah ,
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This is like the most American nazi thing I’ve ever heard.

artisanrox ,
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where legal defense fund??? 😎👍

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