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authed ,

And Obama isn’t nuts? Droning weddings and stuff

spaceghoti OP ,

Thank you for today’s injection of “whataboutism.” It was utterly irrelevant, as always.

authed ,

It wasn’t irrelevant… And the die hard democrats still call this fake news… See other comments

Cruxifux ,

Trump did more.

…suntimes.com/…/under-donald-trump-drone-strikes-…

So if we’re talking about Trump VS Obama specifically you don’t get to use that one as a one up for Trump vs Obama.

But yes, that drone strike thing is one of the reasons I don’t like Obama. It’s also one of the reasons I don’t like Trump.

authed ,

At least you are honest, but I think Obama is the one that started it (don’t quote me on that)

Cruxifux ,

Well I think both Trump and Obama are war criminals that deserve to go to The Hague so you’re not gonna hear me sticking up for Obama starting it. But I’m gonna call a spade a spade here and say it’s a really stupid whataboutism to bring up if you’re pretending you actually care about civilian deaths when talking about drone strikes man.

authed ,

I think its worth pointing out the other is also deplorable when he is calling someone else deplorable

Cruxifux ,

So do you agree that it’s fucked up that Trump also did a ridiculous amount of drone strikes and that he’s also a huge piece of shit?

authed ,

The only thing I like about Trump is that he is not a politician… Also, I am not aware of any hospitals or weddings that were droned by Trump

Cruxifux ,

The majority of drone strike civilian casualties occurred under trump. It took me like three seconds to google dude.

What you’re doing is called a double standard. Congratulations, you stand for absolutely nothing.

AbidanYre ,

Nope, it was Bush.

AFKBRBChocolate ,

It started under Bush. We didn’t have much drone technology prior to that, so it ramped up under him, continued to ramp up under Obama, and continued to ramp up under Trump.

Whether it’s a net negative is debatable to me. It’s not like those bystander deaths didn’t happen prior to the drones - on the contrary, there were more of them because we used less discriminate bombs instead. You can make an argument that the drone strikes have saved lives, at least as compared to what was happening previously. Targeting someone in a civilian area seems pretty reprehensible regardless.

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    authed ,

    hrw.org/…/us-drone-attack-marriage-procession-yem…

    NataliePortland ,
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    That’s just a political attack job against Obama. You shouldn’t trust MSM it’s all lies. I bet you voted for treason trump

    authed ,

    Its not an attack, its just the truth

    authed ,

    Also… Not sure what MSM is

    NataliePortland ,
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    Wow lady you need to learn how to read. Maybe if you weren’t spending so much time getting offended about everything you would know something about news and politics. Ask JFK Jr who MSM is when he comes back from the dead

    authed ,

    Everything you don’t want to believe is fake news? Ok

    eestileib ,

    Yup that was illegal activity and he should not have been allowed to do it. Trump doing it as well doesn’t make it ok. Congress failed in their duty in both cases.

    See? If you don’t make the quarterback of your political team into a deity, it’s possible to criticize them without ego death.

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