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queermunist ,
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An apology would be a good first step, but until America pays for its crimes there can never be justice.

selokichtli ,

As a Latino I don’t give a fuck about the USA paying for its crimes, to my eyes that’s a crazy dream. I just wish they stop being bully two-face assholes already. The world needs the best USA right now.

And please, I’m talking about representatives of the USA state that most of the time represent corporations, not the actual people.

queermunist ,
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The US has always been a bunch of companies pretending to be a country. Literally, the founding companies were the Plymouth Company and the London Company (both later known as the Virginia Company) and since the very beginning the US has been a story of hostile corporate acquisition of land and resources and people. It can’t stop being a bully two-face asshole, it’s in the company charter!

selokichtli ,

Well, this makes a lot of sense, but the US people might want to try to change it. Certainly, the rest of the world is terrified of the US government since Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

queermunist ,
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tbh I think the only hope is balkanization

Dagnet ,

As a Latin American, I would take his share. I do care about the US paying and it would make a huge difference

selokichtli ,

Think about it. They apologize, they say they are sorry, but they don’t do shit about it.

Dagnet ,

That would be NOT paying for it yes

selokichtli ,

Well, I wish world peace too.

BurgerPunk ,
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The best USA for the world would be a collapsed one

selokichtli ,

I do not think so. The USA is an important part of our world, whether we like it or not. It’s been around for centuries now, and has a well-deserved place as a leading nation. However, they need to address so many problems within their borders before they start meddling everywhere.

BurgerPunk ,
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The rules based world order™ is a global imperialist system of monopolistic capital extraction and exploitation of the periphery. The US is the head of that hegemonic order. It provides no value to the rest of the world. It exists to extract value from the rest of the world.

The US position in the world is no more earned than a person who buys a slave deserves the title “master”

selokichtli ,

I believe that a balanced --more fair for everyone-- status can be achieved and the USA is instrumental for that to happen in current times. I’ll believe the same about the next “head of the hegemonic order” if the USA collapses.

BurgerPunk ,
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Why do you believe that?

The ruling class doesn’t believe that. They’re figuring out how to stay in charge while the world collapses around them.

What you believe is expressly against what the people that control this global system want and believe.

The only better world will be one where they are overthrown

selokichtli ,

Believe what exactly? It’s only logical that a more balanced status between nations is possible. History backs that claim. Of course it can go both ways. Honestly don’t know a lot of people in the ruling class to presume what they’re all doing or thinking. I know organized regular people can change things through politics, through culture.

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