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Manmoth , to Personal Finance in Landlords should have to pay income tax on their rental properties regardless of whether they're rented out or not.

For doing dick all

Yeah because they just plucked the property off of a tree… people often work years and years to get enough for a property investment and it can take 30 years to pay it off. Throughout all that time they are responsible for maintenance, insurance and a litany of other things to keep it from falling into disrepair.

Manmoth , to Personal Finance in Landlords should have to pay income tax on their rental properties regardless of whether they're rented out or not.

To use it for a business

This is wealth extraction

Or enjoyment

So you’re okay with some rich person owning acreage as long as it’s for their own enjoyment but not for a normal dude who has an investment property and is holding out for a renter that will adequately cover his costs and generate some profit?

Manmoth , to Personal Finance in Landlords should have to pay income tax on their rental properties regardless of whether they're rented out or not.

I’m not a libertarian. Printing money, endless wars, corporate welfare, cronyism, ill-conceived laws and poor enforcement are very real MACRO (not individual) causes and you’ve not refuted them at all. These affect the price of EVERYTHING.

At the individual level homelessness can be fueled by all the things I mentioned. Some of those things are self inflicted and some are out of the control of the person. Either way there’s nothing dehumanizing about stating facts.

I get the feeling in this thread that everyone thinks housing should be free which is… ridiculous… Nothing is free because everything has a cost. I agree, however, with the overall issue of corruption and exploitative wealth – wealth that is often derived by anticompetitive, preferential treatment etc The average dude renting a house doesn’t want to screw poor people they just want an alternative to a 401k so they can retire.

Manmoth , to Personal Finance in Landlords should have to pay income tax on their rental properties regardless of whether they're rented out or not.

Literally any other type of business

You’ve just eliminated perhaps the safest, most attainable method for the average person to achieve passive income.

Owning land for personal use

Other than living on it, why would someone want to own land?

Manmoth , to Personal Finance in Landlords should have to pay income tax on their rental properties regardless of whether they're rented out or not.

So, so many reasons…

At the individual level drugs are a HUGE reaaon, mental illness, poor care for veterans etc Although there is SOME government housing and charitable housing for people that need it.

At a macro level there is money printing, endless war, corporate welfare, cronyism etc

Let’s face it though we could probably house everyone in Europe within South Dakota alone. Not to mention most homeless people are in extremely expensive areas like LA, Austin, Seattle and New York.

Passing an ill-conceived law that will have unintended consequences should be way, way low on the list of ways to lower housing prices. Especially since it’s highly likely it won’t be enforced properly.

Manmoth , to Personal Finance in Landlords should have to pay income tax on their rental properties regardless of whether they're rented out or not.

Because there is more than enough for everyone.

Manmoth , to Personal Finance in Landlords should have to pay income tax on their rental properties regardless of whether they're rented out or not.

So that people can decouple their time from their earning power.

Manmoth , to Personal Finance in Landlords should have to pay income tax on their rental properties regardless of whether they're rented out or not.

What is an example of decommodifying?

Manmoth , to Personal Finance in Landlords should have to pay income tax on their rental properties regardless of whether they're rented out or not.

What should people investment then? How is land ownership handled? Etc etc etc

Manmoth , to Personal Finance in Landlords should have to pay income tax on their rental properties regardless of whether they're rented out or not.

Why should it be anything but a personal investment?

What do mean? I don’t see how what I said negates that.

Isn’t it better for everyone to decommodify housing?

Not really no. Commodfication is why things used to be cheap. High [insert item here] prices are directly related to money printing, corporate welfare and regulations that are designed to raise the barrier of entry for normal people.

Manmoth , to Personal Finance in Landlords should have to pay income tax on their rental properties regardless of whether they're rented out or not.

Real estate should be considered an investment. It’s one of the few things people invest in that is actually valuable. It’s the speculative and labrynthine financial markets that are the problem in that regard.

The only reason mega-renters like Blackrock and Vanguard are able to monolithically buy property in the first place is because of dubious speculative earnings and government bailouts.

It’s not surprising that home ownership was actually a lot higher 60 years ago.

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