@RobotToaster Added a new section towards the beginning, telling people to check the server details and read what policies are towards particular instances. Thanks for the tip!
I wish instead of more mastodon guides we got guides to pleroma/akkoma or misskey/calckey. Other projects could use more written about them, to help users and get some name recognition. Even if its nearly the exact same guide, publishing material for some of the other projects could help break the idea that mastodon is the fediverse.
@DrChickenbeer The guy's write-up that we linked is really something, just absolutely wild what he was able to do. Apparently he tests his app in MAME before actually running it on his Apple IIc.
Thanks the thing, when internet folks get riled up we can have a serious impact. Redditors have always been great at this -- Restore the Fourth, the SOPA/PIPA protests in 2011 -- and Lemmy and kbin can be a great vehicle.
There’s a potential for surveillance capitalism to become more normalized on the network.
I think these tools can be a real benefit in legitimizing the fediverse, but they need to be developed carefully, with concern for user privacy.
Seems to me that by their very nature the for-profit, business- facing of these are going to prioritise the needs of surveillance capitalism over user privacy in the way they develop.
So basically signal for the fediverse? Certainly sounds interesting, would be cool if it could hook into Lemmy and Mastadon as a common chat client and share between the two.
So many chat apps that no one will realistically use. Until we have interoperability between different apps it’s completely pointless releasing new ones.
You won't get interoperability without people creating these kinds of apps. There's no reason Company A would futureproof their platform to communicate with apps that don't exist, because that's unnecessary development; the interoperability comes after the platforms exist. Email is a prime example of this.
The biggest thing to note about the new messenger, by far, is that the developer intends to provide end-to-end encryption. More impressively, the app is intended to work with any Fediverse account.
This would make cross communication across the fediverse easier and may even interest others to join. It gives a leg up to the InstaRedFaceXTwitThreadApps since you can just use your one fediverse account.
There are definitely some open questions about how Sup works with the rest of the Fediverse. Do users just sign in to a service via an OAuth dance with their Fediverse accounts? Do the messages federate over ActivityPub? Does my server store my messages, or does just the app store those?
These questions and more would have to be answered before I signed up though.
@fazalmajid Maybe so, but Mastodon historically has only allowed users to look up other users, search hashtag indexes, and depending on the server, search your own posts. A lot of this was done under the pretense of protecting users from harassment, but it's a bandaid covering over insufficient tooling for post-based interaction capabilities.
Anyway, the bigger problem is that it's harder to find stuff in federated systems, which can be a big headache for getting new people into the Fediverse. Search isn't a silver bullet, but it goes a long ways towards making discovery easier.
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