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14th_cylon ,

did you seriously wrote like a million paragraphs to explain why it is crucial to start saying “threadiverse” because “fediverse” is bad? 🤣

swnt ,
@swnt@feddit.de avatar

I think their explanation is valid and important. Early adopters not caring about branding is one of the reasons their software stays in a minority

14th_cylon ,

I think their explanation is valid and important

you mean this explanation?

TL:DR: “Threadiverse”: Thread+Universe+Diverse+Fediverse+Threadiverse

i think it is a joke. people who are staying on reddit right now are doing that because they don’t care about fediverse and are still happy with scrolling through w/e they are scrolling on reddit right now. if that changes in the future, it is not going to be because someone changes fediverse to threadiverse.

Early adopters not caring about branding is one of the reasons their software stays in a minority

that is absolute nonsense. it is the product that makes the brand, not the other way around. if you have good product, you will make word-class brand from random mix of characters like “google”. if you have bad product, no brand is going to help you.

that is not to say that fediverse is bad product, it is purely comment on people overestimating the almighty brand.

SNEEZ OP ,
@SNEEZ@kbin.social avatar

hey; just because I thought it was funny doesn't invalidate my points--and I'm not saying that it's vital we have a good name to sum up this segment of the fediverse for it to succeed; I'm saying it'll probably succeed faster if we have one.

14th_cylon ,

I’m not saying that it’s vital we have a good name to sum up this segment of the fediverse for it to succeed; I’m saying it’ll probably succeed faster if we have one.

i am saying it does not matter. people go to buy/use product or service because it is good product, not becaus it has nice name.

beside, i question your idea that threadiverse is for some strange reason better than fediverse. it is longer, harder to pronounciate and write, and people really do not care whether it is somehow mix of four different words.

SNEEZ OP ,
@SNEEZ@kbin.social avatar

I think you've misunderstood my post--perhaps I wasn't clear enough; but I'm not saying fediverse is a bad term that needs replacing; nor am I saying the threadiverse won't succeed if it's not called the threadiverse--

I'm saying that fediverse is a broad term that encompasses all of the connected sites here; not just the thread-based forum ones--it's a broad umbrella term, and a good one.

But in my opinion at least, it's good to have more niche umbrella terms like threadiverse for use beneath the broad ones--

You're perfectly entitled to disagree, but I'd appreciate it if you didn't try to shut down productive discussion just because you personally don't see the need for more specific terminology.

14th_cylon ,

perhaps I wasn’t clear enough; but I’m not saying fediverse is a bad term that needs replacing; nor am I saying the threadiverse won’t succeed if it’s not called the threadiverse– I’m saying that fediverse is a broad term that encompasses all of the connected sites here; not just the thread-based forum ones–it’s a broad umbrella term, and a good one.

i get that part, but i am saying that the name is not a reason why people did or did not came here and will have zero name on the speed of the migration.

people who are here now are mostly people who are fans of opensource and were willing to go through the birth problems because of that. they did not came because of the name.

the rest of the people will number of their friends here reach some critical mass for them to notice.

you have live example of this in musk trying to rebrand twitter right now. he thinks he will change the clusterfuck he created by changing the name, but he doesn’t get that name is not the problem and will have zero effect.

unless you have real name for changing the brand (like two companies merged and you want the branding to reflect that), changing the brand is usually desperate act of clueless manager who just doesn’t have better idea.

You’re perfectly entitled to disagree, but I’d appreciate it if you didn’t try to shut down productive discussion just because you personally don’t see the need for more specific terminology.

  1. having opposite opinion is not "shutting down the discussion"
  2. you are overestimating my powers - i can guarantee that people will say their piece without regards to what i did or did not say ;)
SNEEZ OP ,
@SNEEZ@kbin.social avatar

"Attempting to shut down discussion" is probably the wrong phrasing--regardless calling opposing positions "a joke" will never be conducive to useful discussion.

To actually address your point--yes; that's what I'm saying--we are the early adopters; and yes, nobody ever cares about the name of something--and frankly, the name doesn't matter.

But right now, the platform we are on has no name--hence why I made a post about one particular name I think is good, and why.

As I said before; we have names for the individual access points; Lemmy and Kbin-- and we have a name for the ecosystem they exist within; the Fediverse-- but we have no name for what Lemmy and Kbin are; there's currently no standard umbrella term for the forum section of the Fediverse.

My point is not that having the perfect name matters necessarily; rather that having a name at all is something that is, in my opinion, important--the more useful the terminology the better.

SNEEZ OP ,
@SNEEZ@kbin.social avatar

yes lol

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