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Serosh ,
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This is utterly baffling and goes against the whole idea of the Fediverse. To take advantage of the impending mass migration, just days before Reddit shuts down their universal API access for good, this all leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.

So users now have to choose between two already-smaller communities when making the transition? This is only going to make a semi-complicated process even more confusing, and end up pushing users back to Reddit.

I had mostly used Lemmy.ml up to this point, but I didn’t leave Reddit to join another u/spez dictatorship. What a disappointing turn of events. Kbin is now my primary.

hugz ,

Decentralisation means a clash of egos

ginerel ,
@ginerel@kbin.social avatar

I don't think it's a case of a personal ego here. I think it's something different, that has to go with the main devs' ideology. I feel like @feditips 's concerns are quite valid.

Rottcodd ,
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goes against the whole idea of the Fediverse.

Presuming for the sake of argument that it's a deliberate move by .ml to freeze out kbin users, it only really goes against the idea of the fediverse in that it's an underhanded way to accomplish something that was meant to be done openly. By design, every instance is entirely free to choose whether or not to federate with any other.

What a disappointing turn of events. Kbin is now my primary.

And (again presuming for the sake of argument that it's not simply a glitch), that's the fediverse working exactly as intended. Just as every instance is free to choose which instances to federate with, every user is free to choose which instances to join or follow.

DreamerOfImprobableDreams ,

True, but the original intent was that defederation would be a nuclear option, reserved only for instances that totally failed to moderate stuff like hate speech, bot activity, etc-- given that it damages the Fediverse as a whole.

The lemmy.ml admins are free to federate or defederate from other instances as they please-- and we're free to criticize their decision as we please, too.

Bobo_Palermo ,

We should not be moderating hate speech....that is a slippery slope. Simply disregard it.

ChemicalRascal ,
@ChemicalRascal@kbin.social avatar

Something something, that's how you get a Nazi bar.

kabe ,
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No need to get on the high horse just yet. This is much more likely to be a sever/sync issue than some kind of shadowy conspiracy.

If lemmy.ml wanted to defederate, they’d just go ahead and do it.

BraveSirZaphod ,
@BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social avatar

I'm not sure how much you know about networking or HTTP, but from the evidence posted, this very much is not the kind of thing that just accidentally happens.

Texas_Hangover ,

The admins of lemmy.ml are literal commie scum. No surprise that they are a tad authoritarian.

ChemicalRascal ,
@ChemicalRascal@kbin.social avatar

They're Tankies. Don't confuse Tankies and communists, even if there's a certain historical adjacency there. They are ultimately different concepts.

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