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Perhyte ,

Is this just placing them vertically, nothing else?

I currently use the Tree Style Tab extension and really like how it handles sub-tabs and allows collapsing the tree nodes. If I can't have that this is probably not directly useful to me unless extensions can add that functionality.

I guess I'll be watching how this evolves though.

gramathy ,

Yeah, I use TST with some CSS modifications to nearly eliminate the top bar and I like it a lot

something_random_tho ,

I'm in a similar boat. I use Sidebery which has groups of tabs (in addition to nesting them). Would really want something similar built in natively to organize all of them.

msdropbear42 ,
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@Perhyte @cloudless Agree, but fwiw, IMO, is even more powerful & flexible than AO. After being spoiled by both these for years, has heaps of catching up to do before the native solution will become my choice... but i emphatically DO want sophisticated to be native, so hope the Devs learn from & adopt from these two AOs.

Carighan ,
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I honestly hope they do not. The base implementation should be something utterly basic - I mean, quite literally the horizontal tab strip, but vertical. And then present an API for extending them, allowing consumers to bolt their own functionality on top as needed for their specific use case.

Don't stuff the browser full of stuff only a tiny minority uses, tbh.

waldyrious ,
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@msdropbear42 @Perhyte @cloudless as a long-time user, I've seen many people mention that is better, more powerful, etc., but I keep missing out on what exactly are the killer features that make the difference for so many people to have this preference. I'm pretty happy with TST, and suspect that the main things I'm missing are small papercuts and UX tune ups, but maybe there are features I don't know I need? Please enlighten me 😁

msdropbear42 ,
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@waldyrious @Perhyte @cloudless I was a user for many years, before discovering , so i do know how excellent TST is. IMO though, TST lost its way once the Dev chose to remove much core functionality from it, devolving it all instead to myriad companion AOs the user then also must install. As well, various functions some users wanted were explicitly ruled out by the Dev.

Otoh the Sidebery Dev has been immensely receptive to new ideas, as well as feedback for improving existing features, + ALL the functionality of TST exists within Sidebery's Settings without needing to have any companion AOs. There's so much i like about Sidebery, but just to mention a mere handful of benefits over TST:

  • tab hover preview thumbnails
  • infinite separate Workspaces [called Tab Panels in Sidebery]
  • optional integration in the Sidebery Panel of Closed Tabs, Bookmarks, History [done better than in TST]
  • infinite Session backups & restores
  • really clever context menu options such that many commonplace tab operations can be done "one handed"... you really need to play with this to understand

My reply is inadequate. Much better would be to install the AO, explore its rich Settings, & play with it all.

waldyrious ,
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@msdropbear42 @Perhyte @cloudless thank you! The integrated history and bookmarks alone is already enticing enough. I'll give it a try! 😃

Carighan ,
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This is exactly what was expected.

After all, it's called Vertical Tabs, not Nested Tree Tabs.

unless extensions can add that functionality

I guess that's the idea. Most sidebar extensions need reworking with the new sidebar, but now addons wanting to add functionality to the tab strip no longer have to first also "invent" the whole vertical tab strip. They can just start from the existing one.

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