Against Masculinity - Young men do not need a vision of “positive masculinity.” They need what everyone else needs: to be a good person who has a satisfying, meaningful life. ( www.currentaffairs.org )

nichtsowichtig , 3 months ago

I wholeheartedly agree. I don’t believe there is such a thing as a “good masculinity” in the same way there isn’t any “good femininity”. Gender roles don’t need to be redefined, they should be overcome.

Gradually_Adjusting , 3 months ago

Gender is merely an aspect of identity, and expressing your identity in a positive way should not be discouraged

fuckyou , 3 months ago

Unless you’re a man, because then it’s free for everyone to opine their high school philosophical take on penises and vaginas and how we should see them. Jesus christ education is dead.

nichtsowichtig , 3 months ago

of course it shouldn’t! but the problems arise when it becomes some sort of pressure to conform to. A man likes working out, look jacked and have a well combed beard? If he’s happy in his body, that is awesome! doesn’t mean we should make a role model out of him and encourage others to be like that to. Because a man who wears dresses, knits and is a huge nerd about make-up is equally worthy of feeling happy about himself. If we make any kind of masculinity more ‘positive’ than the other, we run into problems

Gradually_Adjusting , 3 months ago

It’s almost like there are more than two clearly defined expressions of gender

Syntha , 3 months ago

Gender roles don’t need to be redefined, they should be overcome.

It’s fascinating to me how people blurt statements like this out and then just move on like that settles the issue.

Like we’re not living in a gendered world and will continue do so for every single day of our lives.

Even if you think that gender should be abolished as the ultimate goal you have to acknowledge that, in the mean time, boys and young men have to navigate a world that is not blind to gender. And if they are looking for guidance on how to do that and you’re just sticking your head in the sand, they will get their answers from people who give them what they’re looking for. Even if those answers are terrible.

nichtsowichtig , 3 months ago

So why do men look for guidance on how to be masculine? Why is it even appealing to be masculine? I believe it has little to do with the characteristics themselves (which keep changing and are hard to specify), I believe boys and young men aspire to be masculine because of the benefits you receive when you conform to these ideals. The more masculine you are, the more respect society pays you, you’ll have more authority, people will find you more sexually attractive. All of these things are universally desirable, so young men will certainly want all of these things. So any kind of ‘guidance’ on masculinity, even if it is positive and affirmative, isn’t a means for people to find out who they are, and instead it maintains a system in which men (also women, if we speak more broadly about patriarchy) are made to conform to gender norms.