These groups thrive in the void that is self help for men.
The classic feminist discourse doesn’t speak to men as it was designed by and for women to allow emancipation.
The disconnect with classical feminism is best evocked by the trans community where trans men explain how surprised they were at the reality of being a man in today’s world.
There isn’t much if anything around to help young men learn how to be a man in the 21st century, so they are inevitably drawn to the simple but toxic solutions people like Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson provide.
This void used to be filled with the pick-up artist community, so this issue isn’t new.
The obvious counter would be for feminist groups like ours to also provide non toxic solutions to the issues boys and men face so that they can go into the world.
There is a way to be manly and tolerant and express your needs and wants healthily. We’re learning it the hard way. We need to make it easier for the next generation. I’m saying this as a father of 3 boys.
Pet peeve, but even the name feminism is going to be a hard sell when you’re trying to explain to boys how to be men.