bobthened , 11 months ago

Fuck off, stop posting this hateful bullshit.

It’s not a genocide, that’s not how genocide works

He talks about doctors sterilising people, as if they’re doing it forcibly — but they aren’t. The surgery that transgender people can get is entirely optional, they aren’t being forced to do it. In fact a lot of transgender people don’t undergo any surgery — and the ones that do choose to have to be fully informed of all the risks just like anyone else undergoing any other kind of surgery. Trans people can and do have children, some because they never underwent the surgery that would make them unable to (remember Thomas Beatie en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Beatie ?) and others through things like adoption or surrogacy.

Also, the idea that they can’t feel sexual pleasure is just categorically untrue medicalnewstoday.com/…/transgender-women-after-su…

Kichae , 11 months ago

I'm not going to watch the video, because everything about this gives off bad-faith manosphere "owning the libs" vibes, and ain't nobody got time for that, but is the TL;DR here that they're comparing elective bottom surgery to the eugenicist practice of performing unconsented and often uninformed sterilization of indigenous people and people with intellectual disabilities?

Because if so, wow.

bobthened , 11 months ago

More or less. It’s a one minute YouTube shorts clip of some podcast studio with a sort of wannabe Joe Rogan type ranting at another man, who is presumably pro trans rights.

He says “I think there is a trans genocide”, just to make it seem like he gives a shit about transgender people, and then starts accusing the other guy of deliberately sterilising people through the use of hormones and surgery and says that trans people “can’t feel sexual feelings of any kind” (presumably he means the can’t orgasm). It’s also very obviously heavily heavily edited to make the knock of Rogan look good and the other guy look bad.

Just typical conservative manosphere nonsense with a bunch of bearded guys who ranting about things they know absolutely nothing about.

Unhappily_Coerced OP , 11 months ago (edited 11 months ago)

stop posting this hateful bullshit

The spreading of ideas and differing perspectives through provoking conversation isn't "hateful bullshit" just because you and the echo chamber which you might align with disagree with it. Noting I've said, nor what was said in the video, is "hateful". Why are you often trying to control how other people speak and think?

It’s not a genocide, that’s not how genocide works

Sterilization is quite commonly associated with genocide. If you support it because it's voluntary. More power to you, I guess? I don't support the sterilization of anyone, but if it's voluntary, I guess that makes it acceptable in some people's eyes? Noted.

the idea that they can’t feel sexual pleasure is just categorically untrue

Yes, I agree that this idea is a stretch, unfortunately it was included in an otherwise thought provoking video.