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RvTV95XBeo ,

www.cnn.com/2023/03/29/health/…/index.html

Guns are the leading cause of death for US children and teens, since surpassing car accidents in 2020.

In no other comparable country are firearms within the top four causes of mortality among children, according to a KFF analysis.

czech ,
@czech@kbin.social avatar

Wow, why is the right against protecting children?

Unhappily_Coerced OP ,

You sound like you are helping prove my point. Children need to be protected. So it makes no sense to prevent the placement of police outside of schools.

The unfortunate truth is that you likely don't see it that way and will instead try to coerce people to give up their guns.

DarkGamer ,
@DarkGamer@kbin.social avatar

Children need to be protected. So it makes no sense to prevent the placement of police outside of schools.
The unfortunate truth is that you likely don't see it that way and will instead try to coerce people to give up their guns.

@Unhappily_Coerced I'm reminded of Uvalde, when the cops sat around while the shooter murdered children. If you want to keep people safe from gun violence, gun regulation is the obvious solution, one you clearly don't want to entertain despite bipartisan support for many forms of regulation.

Evidence shows police in schools do not make students safer, and they disproportionately harass, punish and incarcerate black, Latino, and disabled students.

I suspect you're not the type that cares about evidence as much as ideology given what you've posted. I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

Unhappily_Coerced OP ,

I'm reminded of Uvalde

"negativity bias"

Law enforcement agencies in the United States have, on multiple occasions, successfully intervened to stop potential and active school shooters. Interventions vary in terms of effectiveness.

gun regulation is the obvious solution

Do you not find it dumbfounding? How can we have so many existing firearm regulations and still have evil people? It's quite perplexing, isn't it?

It's almost as if, the guns aren't the problem to begin with, and instead, people’s culture and mental health are to blame. Imagine that. People kill people, with or without access to firearms... Amazing!

Now that we've covered some obvious nuggets of truth, we get to dive into why the articles you've put your faith in are BS pseudoscience. Enjoy.

https://www.nea.org/advocating-for-change/new-from-nea/making-schools-safe-and-just

...begins with the personal experience of Cameo Kendrick, using her feelings and experiences to support the argument against SROs. While personal anecdotes can be powerful, they are not sufficient evidence to draw broad conclusions.

...is manipulative, heavily relying on emotional language and appeals to fear and racial injustice to shape the narrative.

...mentions statistics about the increase in the number of SROs in schools but fails to provide a comprehensive analysis of the data.

...implies a causal relationship between the presence of SROs and negative outcomes such as higher rates of behavioral incidents, suspensions, expulsions, and arrests. However, it fails to consider other factors that could contribute to these outcomes.

...highlights statistics that support its argument, such as the disproportionate arrest rates of Black students. Does not provide a complete picture of the overall effectiveness or impact of SROs.

...makes sweeping generalizations about the impact of SROs based on limited research and isolated incidents. It fails to acknowledge that the effectiveness and outcomes of SRO programs can vary significantly across different schools and communities.

...does not present any opposing viewpoints or address potential benefits of having SROs in schools. This one-sided presentation undermines the credibility and objectivity of the argument.

...asserts that several school districts have already moved to stop the practice of employing SROs, but it does not provide any specific examples or evidence to support this claim.

https://www.aclusocal.org/en/no-police-in-schools

...opens with a strong emotional appeal by linking the presence of police in schools to historical injustices such as slave patrols and forced dislocation of indigenous youth. It is crucial to evaluate the current situation based on evidence and data rather than relying solely on emotional appeals.

...cites a few instances where school districts eliminated or made progress towards eliminating school police, implying that this is a widespread trend across California. However, without providing a comprehensive analysis of the situation in all California schools, it becomes a cherry-picked example.

...suggests a correlation between the presence of police in schools and higher rates of arrests. Other factors such as the demographics of the student population, socioeconomic conditions, and crime rates in the surrounding community could also contribute to the observed disparities.

...dismisses the argument that schools with assigned law enforcement officers may be inherently more dangerous, using the example of Baldwin Park Unified School District. While this example is presented as evidence against the argument, it does not consider other potential explanations for the increase in law enforcement referrals.

...selectively highlights data points that support its argument, focusing on the disproportionate arrest and referral rates for specific student groups. While these disparities may indeed exist, it is important to consider a broader range of data and factors to get a comprehensive understanding of the situation. Ignoring or downplaying relevant data can lead to a biased and incomplete analysis.

...does not address any potential benefits or positive aspects of having police in schools. It fails to acknowledge arguments that advocate for the presence of law enforcement as a means to ensure safety, prevent violence, or address potential threats within school environments. By omitting counterarguments, the article presents a one-sided view of the issue.

...recommends the removal of police from schools, it does not provide concrete alternatives or strategies to ensure the safety and well-being of students in the absence of law enforcement. Simply advocating for the removal of police without proposing viable alternatives undermines the goal of creating safe and supportive learning environments.

rafoix ,

That just sounds like welfare for useless cops.

We would be seeing cops beat and harass children within weeks of something like that being implemented.

DaveyP ,
@DaveyP@kbin.social avatar

@Unhappily_Coerced Give up your Guns. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country
No reason to have them, just watch Jim Jefferies here if you have doubts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rR9IaXH1M0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9UFyNy-rw4

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