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Hairyblue ,
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I wish Biden did just the one term. I voted for him but I just think he is too old to make another 5 years. BUT I will certainly vote for him again.

Trump is a criminal and he is too old also, and a liar, and a bigot, and stupid.

BrambleDog ,

Except we know Biden will beat Trump.

We don't know that a Newsom campaign could beat Trump and I think we would be foolish to assume so.

Generally, if the VP doesn't win the nomination, the party doesn't stand a very good chance of winning the election. I think if Biden didn't run and Harris did not get the nomination (I think Newsom would slaughter her), Trump takes 2024 fairly decisively.

I think the democratic party's best path forward is an uncontested Biden/Harris reelection, and then instead of running in 2028, Harris decides to retire.

HandsHurtLoL ,

I agree with this but I just don't think it's realistic that Harris slinks away in 2028. I don't see her as power hungry per se, but I do see her really enjoying being "the first" especially as it pertains to race and gender. She will not accept anything short of the Dem Convention nomination after a second VP term.

neonfire ,
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Except next time it'll just be someone worse than trump, so we'll have to support Harris as she's the best candidate to defeat whomever. That's how it always is with the dems. "Vote for us now and we'll totally be able to fix things in the future!". Then they never do. I'm not a republican voter, but I'm on the fence about Biden again. I'd rather "throw my vote away" by voting 3rd party than succumb to corpo dems. Hell Biden said he would forgive the loans, but he was the one who helped make it so you can't declare bankruptcy on said loans in the first place. Not to mention the dems not holding their ground in the capitol and allowing more and more bullshit through. Enough is enough.

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