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Tronn4 ,

Why or how the F is trump still even a candidate

Snipe_AT ,
@Snipe_AT@lemmy.atay.dev avatar

There’s no way he makes it as the actual candidate.

I’m a republican and I can say that I and plenty of others like me will be voting blue if that absolute disgrace becomes the primary candidate.

prole ,
@prole@sh.itjust.works avatar

Are you a billionaire tycoon? Just curious…

I’m having trouble coming up with any other reason why a person would voluntarily describe themselves as “republican” in 2023.

It’s not just Trump. The Republican party is rotten to the core. Maybe it’s time to reevaluate things.

SamboT ,

What a way to start a conversation. Try imagining the person on the other end of the computer and try again.

prole ,
@prole@sh.itjust.works avatar

I don’t follow…? I was just asking a question. Legitimately curious.

SamboT ,

You are legitimately curious to know if they are a billionaire tycoon?

If you have a question for a self-proclaimed republican then ask it. Don’t pretend to inquire with them for an opportunity to insult them. That’s not respectful.

imPastaSyndrome ,

Try imagining the person on the other end of the computer and try again.

yup

Dashi ,

I say this as a Democrat that used to be a republican. You think our side is all sunshine and rainbows? Neither side is perfect it really is the option of the least bad candidate and that is the issue. The two party system is a failure but it’s what we have.

Yes in my opinion the democrats are better than the Republicans but that doesn’t mean they are without fault. Everyone has an agenda and can make mistakes we are human after all.

prole ,
@prole@sh.itjust.works avatar

I didn’t really say anything about the Democratic party in my comment. Not sure why you brought them up. No whataboutism needed here.

Conservatives are continually voting against their interests when they vote R. Period. End statement.

the_post_of_tom_joad ,

Hmm, i think that the Democrat voters are as well. I knew exactly what i would get with Biden, hated him the most during the primaries, and yet, voted for him knowing he didn’t have my best interests at heart.

And this election i am expected to do that twice? Against that same convict? who tried and will try again to seize power forever?

I’ve held my nose long enough. I can’t breathe.

prole ,
@prole@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah, constantly having to fight off fascism is fucking exhausting.

It’s by design. Once the people become apathetic enough, or get “outrage fatigue”, that’s when fascism can slink in and wrap its filthy little tendrils around our political discourse.

It fucking sucks. I’m with you. I’m tired.

Snipe_AT ,
@Snipe_AT@lemmy.atay.dev avatar

I have thought about your comment for a little bit and would like to respond candidly.

I am just a regular person who has a differing belief about what constitutes a well-functioning government. There are possibly more views that we agree upon than disagree.

At this exact moment,(because everyone’s beliefs are constantly changing with new ideas and information), the views I expect we differ on are: capitalism has been more socially beneficial than destructive, we should have a smaller more efficient government, and we should prevent erosion of the constitutional right to bear firearms.

The views I expect that we agree on are: capitalism has not been properly regulated with regards to the environment (global warming was certainly caused by us), the ability to have an abortion should be codified in law, we should prevent the erosion of constitutional rights like free speech, privacy, and the ability to freely travel, while socialized healthcare will be very expensive and increase everyone’s tax burden, it will also be well worth the cost.

I am a republican because I believe that my political viewpoints align with those of republicans. But I am not blind to the charlatans that have disgraced not only the republican party but also the broader American institution. I take comfort in the fact that I did not vote for Trump in either instance, choosing instead to vote for Biden when that time came.

As for why I voluntarily “describe” myself as a republican because I genuinely believe that people discussing opposing views contributes to incrementally uncovering truth (which is often in the middle) and also serves to stave off the seemingly natural pull of humans to develop tribalism described by the phrase ‘us vs them.’

Hadriscus ,

Cut the middleman, just vote CPUSA already

AngryCommieKender ,

While I tend to agree with your sentiment, I would really prefer people followed Washington’s advice. No parties. He believed that partisan politics would be the downfall of the US, and given the last 239 years of evidence, I would have to agree.

Hadriscus ,

I didn’t know that. What would the US political landscape look like without parties ?

AngryCommieKender ,

No freaking clue. We promptly ignored him and became a two party system almost immediately after he left office.

dangblingus ,

Despite the fact that it’s a statistical likelihood that voting R is voting against your class, T is still far and away the most popular pick for R leadership.

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