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pH3ra , (edited )
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Yes but also, by the same article, 55% of women considers a red flag if you “identify as a communist” and only 27% considers a turnoff “owning a gun”

michaelrose , (edited )

Note identify as a communist not are identified as a communist by a right winger who doesn’t know what the word means and identifies anyone left of Adolf as a communist.

Edit: corrected

taladar ,

Presumably you meant ‘anyone left of Adolf’

michaelrose ,

correct

markopi ,

To be fair, communists do have a red flag.

average_internet_enjoyer ,

oh my god, nice catch

fosforus ,

What do you mean, “but”?

pH3ra ,
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That the “sample population” is clearly biased by its “geographic origin” and “cultural context”

taladar ,

To be fair the Joe Rogan thing sort of gives that away already. 99% of women here in Europe would just ask “Who is Joe Rogan?” if asked about him.

pH3ra ,
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Yeah, and I also find extremely weird that people can be against Rogan (for being Righ-wing I guess) but pro guns and anti communist. It doesn’t sound like “critical thinking” to me

HelixDab2 ,

I’m pro-gun; gun rights are also trans right, gay rights, and women’s rights; without gun rights, you don’t get the entire civil rights movement. Joe Rogan is still an idiot that amplifies the views of bigots, incels, and nationalists. Self-identified communists end up being authoritarian; it’s just red-flavored fascism.

pH3ra ,
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without gun rights, you don’t get the entire civil rights movement

I’m really having a hard time understanding how the two things are connected

HelixDab2 ,
pH3ra , (edited )
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So the thesis of this book is “let the good people have weapons because bad people also have guns” instead of “let’s, all of us, have no weapons”?
American gun nuts really don’t get how ridiculous they sound to the rest of the world…

HelixDab2 ,

The bad people will always have guns, because cops exist. And–spoiler!–cops are not usually on the side of the good guys. Bad guys in mobs certainly didn’t need guns to lynch as many people as they did in the American south. Matthew Shepard wasn’t murdered by people with guns, nor was Sophie Lancaster.

Oppressed minorities will always need to have the means to defend their own lives with violence, and sometimes it’s directly against their own gov’t. The idea that the whole of human history isn’t soaked in blood is, frankly, willfully ignorant. The idea that cops can–or even would–protect you is laughable.

LemmyRefugee ,

I don’t think there is a ‘but’. But it’s good to know that russians are not welcome.

pftbest ,

Russians are imperialist, not communist. They dream of a great russian empire, not for return of the communism.

HelixDab2 ,

Either way, it’s still nice that they aren’t welcome.

Once Russia changes so that they can play nicely with each other and their neighbors, then they’re welcome.

Rambi ,

Did you ever hear of this one year called 1991?

hamid ,

Women and spouses in particular are statistically the most likely to get shot once a gun is in their home, by far. I understand the need for protection and why there is support for guns but stats are stats, women are the victims of male perpetuated gun violence far more often than people in power.

average_internet_enjoyer ,

Hell if you say there are only 2 genders - that’s a red flag in 55% of women… or 30% if you don’t care about politics

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