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hawkwind , (edited )
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This will sound like I am not supporting workers, but hear me out. The intention of this law has nothing to do with taking away breaks. There’s this picture being painted of “state and evil construction companies” vs “workers and municipalities.” There’s actually two different fights here: workers vs evil construction companies and, the state vs municipalities. Focusing on the first one is important outside of how the state and city are bickering.

If you know your construction company will take away your 10 min / 4 hr water break because the city can no longer enforce that, that’s NOT the state’s fault because they’re taking a common sense approach to consolidating laws and eliminating bureaucracy. That is an evil fucking construction company.

You want to blame a lawmaker because they assumed no company would be evil enough to do that, fine, but think about that, and the entire scope of this bill, when deciding who to protest against.

EDIT: Sorry to come off looking like a republican shill. That was honestly not my intention. I’ll try harder next time. ESH except the workers trying to stay hydrated!

Juujian ,

We should remove all those laws barring children working in mines, because common sense is that mining companies would not employ children… You are conflating two issues here. What the world ought to do, and what is really happening. Folks in Texas are struggling in the sun, and we ought to give them any tool we can do they can fight back.

hawkwind ,
@hawkwind@lemmy.management avatar

Don’t be like that. I wasn’t talking about the world, or children in mines. Just this bill and the protests against its passing.

Kapitel42 ,

Nearöy every safety bill is written im blood. The blood of the workers , because corperations dont care about there workers, they care about a line ging up.

Without regulation workers would still be getting locked in factories, burning to death in care of fire.

Zron ,

Every large company will squeeze every second of productivity out of a worker unless it’s forced not to.

The 8 hour work day was fought for by workers, the 5 day work week was fought for by workers, child labor laws were fought for by workers. These things required protests and often time violence to get, because companies were literally killing people through work until these things became labor law.

Removing labor protection does nothing but remove safety for workers and increase profits for corporations.

The free market doesn’t work and has never worked. Anyone who says otherwise is willfully ignorant of history and basic logical reasoning.

hawkwind ,
@hawkwind@lemmy.management avatar

I get that, and I support everything you’re saying. It feels like the workers are getting played by the companies though. Workers should be lobbying for rights to the state, federal and municipal levels, but this feels like a “red herring” of a bill to get behind.

Zron ,

We’re talking about a Texas state law that repeals existing protections for workers.

The workers are protesting for a law that protects them. Removing this law will give them back the protections they had before.

BrainisfineIthink ,
@BrainisfineIthink@lemmy.one avatar

Don’t blame our government, it’s the evil company that would take away breaks you should be mad at!

What kind of asinine logic is this? When has any profit driven corporation ever done “the right thing” without government stipulations? Maybe you should read up on Dupont, Shelll, Exxon, Enron, Rocketdyne, and about a million other companies that did the exact opposite of that as long as they possibly could and even then some.

hawkwind ,
@hawkwind@lemmy.management avatar

I’m not sure who you are quoting, or trying to reason with, but I agree with your sentiment. A profit driven company will do everything it can to profit. Are you trying to say we should “only” be mad at the government and not the company, in this scenario?

venorathebarbarian ,

Not the person you’re asking but we can be mad at both. Companies are evil, profit driven, employee exploiters. We know this, and we must force them to treat their workers like humans. Failure by the government to force companies to treat their workers like humans is something we should be mad at the government for.

We want the government to step in BECAUSE we’re mad at the companies and want to change the companies policies.

MelonTheMan ,
@MelonTheMan@lemmy.world avatar

I appreciate you trying to explain a perspective, even if it’s possibly “wrong.” We do need to spend time trying to understand why rather than default assuming it’s because they’re awful human beings.

I don’t think the downvotes are deserved as I don’t think you’re shilling for corpo overlords or trolling.

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