Clairvoidance , to men in Feminism: Not “progressive”. Not “egalitarian”. Not “liberal”. Not “left-wing”.
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This video is extremely slow and not concise, so you'll have to excuse everyone for not making it through your 1k view video from 2 years ago from a guy who advertises himself as a mathematician first. (Not to completely knock the guy, he at least has done a decent amount of research on what different sects of ideologies exist in relation to feminism, seems to recognize imaginary arguments (Blank Slatism) and is quick to throw away conspiratorial thought)

Does not define feminis as a "belief in gender equality", reasons:
1 Feminists reject gender equality, and is anti-equality (hes apparently only going to elaborate on this 20+ minutes in, but at least he knows gender-essentialist feminists are their own bag of worms and tries to narrow the topic to not-quite-blank-slatists)
2 Surveys show low amount of people define themself as feminist but large suport gender equality

2 does not really follow as an argument to dismiss feminism as a belief in gender equality, there's multiple ways of considering yourself a gender equalitist, in fact, I would say most people consider themselves to view everyone as equal, so gender equalitist becomes a very useless term very quickly due to the sheer amount of different worldviews on what that involves (like this video!). Numbers also don't exist in a vacuum, we have to consider stuff like the 2014+ conservative movement to argue against feminist ideas, I would personally argue that youtube was a popular space of discourse that had a lot of misrepresentation of feminist principles and end-goals through snappy clips of 'triggered feminist owned' videos.
Also as of 2020, 61% of American women defined themselves as feminist, I wouldn't compare that to schizophrenia??? but of course he says this without actually saying the number of people who identify themselves as feminist


Alright now that we spent 18 minutes talking about what intersectionalist feminism isn't, we are given a list of 'mumbo-jumbo jargon' that he attributes to cult behavior
That's weird considering I think you could make a list like this for most academic fields,

Claim: there's no recognizion that females engage in violence as well (19:00)
Tarana Burke has said MeToo is a survivor's movement

This is by a law professor who studied feminist legal theory writing a long justification for acknowleding women's acts of violence, this seems like a defacto case of the word contemporary (and is the first thing to come up on a search on 'feminist acknowledging women violence men')

Philosophy Tube, did not discover that her girlfriend didn't perform violence against her when she transitioned and is still a feminist as far as I'm aware

Jess Philips (mentioned in the video) in 2019 multiple times acknowledging female offenders' existence in parliament as she worked on the latest Domestic Abuse bill

could probably go on, especially because the closer you get to blank slatism you get, you'll see that it only makes sense to acknowledge female violence but I think it's established that being a feminist doesn't neccessitate not believing in female violence. Well that's annoying I had to provide all that evidence, and all he said for you to accept his terms is "there's very little recognizion that females engage in violence as well", when in the description he even cites been pathologizing masculinity as harmful.


Claim: This is mumbo-jumbo, because it is not scientific, this is the mumbo-jumbo jargon of a cult 19:40
Jargon is the specialized vocabulary of any profession, trade, science, or hobby, he has not specified anything that makes it cultish, and thinking soft-sciences has to have hard-science jargon just sounds like stem-brain (courtesy of smbc)


Claim: Misandry & Hate is perpetuated by mainstream feminists (goes on to name 'very well known people') 21:20
Judy Bindland(?) sorry i tried googling variations to make sure i got the name right, but I couldn't find any feminist by this name
Suzanne Moore who whined in 2016 how her movement isnt actually that popular, and I don't know why we're mentioning RADFEMs in the first place when we already acknowledged that we wanted to throw these accusations at all of feminism
"many many other examples", enlightening..
I think this is an appropriate time to use his own excuse of "drops in a small small ocean" exception

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