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Trekman10 , to Star Trek in Anyone else out there who actually really loved Discovery's S1 style of Klingons?
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All that needed to be maintained was that the Klingons we see Kirk face in TOS were all afflicted by the virus - while it’s still reasonable to assume that, the presence of these hitherto unseen 3rd variant of Klingon complicates instead of simplifies, which is what ENT’s arc did. Now what, it’s ANOTHER coincidence that THESE klingons are even ridgier than we’ve seen before, but the other ones are still out there? To borrow your parlance, the Discovery redesign was intended to overwrite and replace what came before, because apparently Star Trek, unlike every other fantasy and science fiction thing I like, is Forbidden from being treated like a secondary world that should have its own internal consistency.

I was completely content to accept it was a coincidence that Kirk only saw augment virus-impacted Klingons in TOS, just like how ST Picard ended up establishing for Romulans (northern vs southern to explain the v shape bone ridge they had through TNG-ENT).

Trekman10 , to Star Trek in Anyone else out there who actually really loved Discovery's S1 style of Klingons?
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I don’t consider them different. I saw TMP for the first time after having grown up on TOS ans TNG and thought “oh they switched to TNG makeup for the Kirk movies?”

The irritation for TNG looking different than TOS also silly and misplaced. It’s 100 years later. That provides plenty of time in-universe for things to drift and evolve from one depiction to another. It’s the same reason why I have zero qualms in terms of continuity with S3 and s4 of Discovery.

Trekman10 , to Star Trek in Anyone else out there who actually really loved Discovery's S1 style of Klingons?
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I’m just hoping for a Kang/Kor/Koloth cameo in SNW where they have flat foreheads.

Trekman10 , to Star Trek in Anyone else out there who actually really loved Discovery's S1 style of Klingons?
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Yeah, I really think a lot of the support for the Klingon redesign and other revisionist aspects of Discovery/the current era of trek it spawned comes from a “but the Original Series is cringe fail and LAME. We have to make cool science fiction action shows for the modern era and couldn’t possibly respect such an old show” mentality.

Trekman10 , to Star Trek in Anyone else out there who actually really loved Discovery's S1 style of Klingons?
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I’ll never understand why it’s treated by some people as some ridiculous expectation that things that couldn’t change so drastically over the course of 5-10 years (the entire biology of a species, for example) shouldn’t do so, and that we’re the odd ones for saying “but wait how is this supposed to take place in the same timeline?”

Trekman10 , to Star Trek in Anyone else out there who actually really loved Discovery's S1 style of Klingons?
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Replace the shine and detail with a classic rubber mask, silicon makeup, and matte brown body paint in exactly the same head and body shape, stick them at a side table in Quarks circa S6 of DS9, and I challenge you to notice anything amiss. I think that is true for how they looked s2 Discovery with the hair and normal skulls I stead of the elongated Crystal Skull shaped look we got in s1.

For me, having them look like TNG Klingons doesn’t even solve the problem because ENT had implied that shouldn’t happen until the TOS movie era. They could have rendered explicit the implication that not every Klingon was infected by the virus, but that still doesn’t support making the Klingons look how they did in s1 DIS.

Trekman10 , to Star Trek in Anyone else out there who actually really loved Discovery's S1 style of Klingons?
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Most of this reasoning is irrelevant to me simply because I don’t view each show as seperate. I watch DIS s1 and see this Klingons and can’t help but think “so what about Kang, Kor, or Koloth? How do they look right now?”

It doesn’t matter how cool or scary these new klingons look, they have four nostrils and elongated heads when before they were more like buff humans with ridges. That’s irreconcilable to me, regardless of how the actual aesthetic makes me feel when I watch an episode.

Taking it at face value, the Klingons looked like TNG, then they lost ridges, then regained them with even more than we’d ever seen before, then they lose them, then they go back to TNG? That’s annoying.

Trekman10 , to Fediverse in Microsoft and IWF Refuse To Assist In The Detection And Removal Of Child Pornography on the Fediverse
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gleasonator.com/…/bf56ad41-7168-4db9-be17-23b7e5e…

It totally looks to me like Big Tech is gonna try to leverage CSAM prevention against the Fediverse. “Oh you want to prevent sex crimes against CHILDREN? Sure, but only on our proprietary services because we’re certainly not gonna fight CP for FREE!”

Trekman10 , to Star Trek in Prodigy Season 1, Volume 2 is coming to DVD & Blu-Ray
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Huh? Everything I’d heard was theat it was P+ that was dissatisfied for w/e reason. I have to imagine if Nick had been the primary one calling the shots they’d at least have wanted to keep it for their lineup

Trekman10 , to Star Trek in Prodigy Season 1, Volume 2 is coming to DVD & Blu-Ray
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I wish this had stayed exclusively a Nickelodeon-venture instead of getting gobbled up by Paramout Plus and dropped the second the market gets tough

Trekman10 , to Star Trek in The first act of the second episode of season 2 of DS9 is possibly the best scene in all of Star Trek
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Had to pull it up but recognised it immediately.

“A party, oh!” - Quark

But for real, you’re totally on the mark on how each of them pivot from each other, how Kira hits eats of them

“these ar- these are my friends” - Kira

Really shows how sh’es grown. I love the double take, and pause when she first is about to blurt it out, then says it more sincerly to Bareil. Thanks for pointing this out and reminding me of how awesome is.

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