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mo_ztt , to Politics in The Internet Can't Stop Cracking Up Over Hilarious Fox News Freudian Slip
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TL;DR she said “erection”

mo_ztt , to Politics in Michael Cohen Pulled Fake AI Court Cases for a Very Real Legal Motion
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“It did not occur to me then — and remains surprising to me now — that Mr. Schwartz would drop the cases into his submission wholesale without even confirming that they existed,” Cohen said. “Accordingly, when I saw the citations and descriptions I had sent Mr. Schwartz quoted at length in the draft filing, I assumed that Mr. Schwartz had reviewed and verified that information and deemed it appropriate to submit to the court.”

Bro:

Even if this is true, don’t throw your goddamned lawyer under the bus. Just say we’re very sorry, we fucked up, I was the one that researched it initially, we won’t do it again. This whole statement does 0% good and a whole lot of bad.

I like Cohen because he manned up and admitted he was wrong but this was a little reminder to me that POS is still in his DNA.

mo_ztt , to Politics in Young voters explain why they’re bailing on Biden, and whether they’d come back
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Yeah. If someone told me that they were working in politics to try to get a non-shitty bunch of people in charge (in or out of the Democratic party) I’d applaud the hell out of it. I was registered as Libertarian or Green Party for basically all my young adult life. If someone’s not doing that, though, and also not voting for the Democrats, then I would blame that person too if Trump wins (in addition to the fascists and the DNC).

mo_ztt , to Politics in Young voters explain why they’re bailing on Biden, and whether they’d come back
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More accurately, someone who doesn’t want other hungry people (in addition to herself) to have any food because she wants better food.

mo_ztt , to Politics in Young voters explain why they’re bailing on Biden, and whether they’d come back
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What, to you, would be not “miniscule”? I linked a source listing concrete things he’s done in more detail than I really want to retype out here.

mo_ztt , to Politics in Young voters explain why they’re bailing on Biden, and whether they’d come back
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Yeah. Sanders was the most popular politician in America for years after the election. Don’t get me started about it lol. If the argument is “we need someone who’s a realistic candidate in the general election,” they had that on a silver platter, and they stabbed him in the back and threw him in the trash.

If the party elite are blocking meaningful representation within, that’s a problem.

It is, in fact, a massive problem. Let’s keep all the candidates down who people actually like, because the stuff everyone likes tends to be not the favorite thing of all our rich friends. Oh no! Why are we unpopular. Don’t people know we’re better than the Republicans?

Fuckin assholes. I mean, they are better than the Republicans, but ass cancer is better than the Republicans.

mo_ztt , to Politics in Young voters explain why they’re bailing on Biden, and whether they’d come back
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Nope, my argument is the reverse of that. I’m saying we should vote for Biden if the only other possible outcome is Trump.

mo_ztt , (edited ) to Politics in Young voters explain why they’re bailing on Biden, and whether they’d come back
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Trump is clearly planning to greatly harm Central and Southern Americans in the US

And Palestinians (he was the one that moved the embassy to Jerusalem, remember)

And US journalists who report on corruption in Saudi Arabia

And Ukrainians

And anyone in government who won’t support his crimes

And ordinary-person election workers who won’t support his crimes

And via his supporters, literally anyone in or out of government who actively opposes his crimes, with a pretty broad definition of “opposes”

And women who have medical problems during a pregnancy

And I’m sure lots of other people who don’t spring to mind right at the moment. But surely that should be enough of a list. 2 Gaza-size genocides as the final outcome of a second Trump term would mean we got very very lucky.

mo_ztt , to Politics in Young voters explain why they’re bailing on Biden, and whether they’d come back
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He’s polling neck and neck with Trump

Yeah. Which is nuts when you think about it.

Who would you push for instead of Biden?

The Democrats have a pretty good process going of pushing out any non-pro-establishment candidates, which leaves the field pretty much full of wet towels. Biden is above the average by quite a bit among the wet towels, in my opinion. Who do you see who could replace him? I’m genuinely asking.

mo_ztt , to Politics in Young voters explain why they’re bailing on Biden, and whether they’d come back
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Yeah. The consequences we’re seeing for pregnant women now, all the people who died of COVID who didn’t need to, and all those little Hispanic kids, all add up to absolutely nothing compared with what he wants to do in a second term.

mo_ztt , to Politics in Young voters explain why they’re bailing on Biden, and whether they’d come back
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What’s your percentage definition of “quite low”?

I mean, I do kind of agree with you. Biden’s old and a sort of “acceptable centrist” candidate. I miss Bernie. I’m still voting for Biden, because Trump is the end of the goddamned world.

mo_ztt , (edited ) to Politics in Young voters explain why they’re bailing on Biden, and whether they’d come back
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Yes, and Biden is still running those concentration camps!

Do you think I’m selfish enough to vote for genocide just because Biden’s genocide doesn’t target people like me?

I think you’re being incredibly selfish. I was friends with a guy who, if the timing had been different, could have literally been one of those kids in cages on the southern border. In addition to support for all kinds of anti-Islamic, anti-queer, and anti-immigrant policies which produced real harm in the real world, Trump started the family separation policy. Biden ended it, and on February 2nd 2021 he created a task force to try to find children who’d been separated from their parents and reunite them. Are you really trying to say that because ICE is still operating and still runs detention centers, “nothing fundamentally changed”?

I will not vote for genocide. This is not some radical stance, it’s the bare fucking minimum. And you know what? My hope is, by pressuring Biden’s campaign on this issue, Biden could reconsider his stance on Gaza to get reelected. That’s how politics works!

Yeah, I get this. I’m not trying to say that Biden should get a free pass on anything he wants to do. I’m saying there’s a concerted propaganda effort afoot at the moment to try to come up with reasons for people not to vote for Biden, when Trump is the end of the fuckin’ world. It’s like if your house is burning down and you’re running around trying to save the artwork instead of the children.

Are you genuinely trying to work for justice with all these things you’re saying? Or just making a theatrical stand for the people in Gaza who’ve been dying by the thousands all through the Obama, Trump, and Biden administrations, while nothing fundamentally changed? (edit: … while ignoring the cost side of the equation of what you’re saying, in the real world, for every single other marginalized or vulnerable person who isn’t in Gaza?)

mo_ztt , to Politics in Young voters explain why they’re bailing on Biden, and whether they’d come back
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Why the fuck not?

mo_ztt , (edited ) to Politics in Young voters explain why they’re bailing on Biden, and whether they’d come back
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Are you under the impression that Trump doesn’t support this type of genocide in a much bigger way than Biden? Or that it’s uncertain whether life will be better for you under Biden than under a second Trump term? If so, I think we’ve hit the root of our disagreement.

Trump already ran concentration camps within the United States during his first term, and he’s already pledged to root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country.

That’s you. He means you. And he’s literally dead serious about it, and he and his cohort have a detailed plan for how to get it done. I’m not by any means saying that you should vote for Biden only for your own safety as some sort of selfish gesture and betray all these people who would somehow be safer under Trump. I’m saying that not voting for Biden endangers quite a lot of people’s safety, inside and outside the US, but yes, also very specifically yours.

mo_ztt , to Politics in Young voters explain why they’re bailing on Biden, and whether they’d come back
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Voting is a chess move, not a love letter.

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

I feel like people from countries where they just recently got free elections can explain this better. I see all this conversation (entitlement? propaganda? cluelessness? The OP article is definitely in the “propaganda” category) from people who are talking about how not liking something Biden did, translates into deciding not to vote for Biden. To someone coming from some situation where voting is connected to your survival and safety, as opposed to the modern-day US where it’s more like a fashion statement, that seems like just pure careless idiocy.

And, as far as the 2024 election, it is connected to your survival. Usually in the US it’s not. This time it is.

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