throwawayish

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Looking to switch distros ( kbin.social )

Hi, sorry if this isn't the right place for this question. I've been using Linux Mint Cinnamon for about 9 months now and have also been experimenting with an Ubuntu GNOME Wayland session for the past month or so. I don't really like distro-hopping, but using X11 isn't cutting it for me. After giving GNOME an honest shot, I...

throwawayish ,

Thanks OP for being relatively descriptive!

Your issues with xfce-notifyd don’t make a lot of sense. Therefore, I wouldn’t dismiss the thought that you might have tarnished your GNOME Wayland session. If possible, consider reinstalling a distro with GNOME pre-installed. Perhaps consider Fedora this time as it’s less opinionated compared to Ubuntu and thus offers GNOME (almost exactly) like how its developers intended.

Don’t be afraid to engage with GNOME’s plethora of extensions. Sure, it’s stupid that some basic functionality is only unofficially supported through extensions. But one simply can’t deny how much they add to GNOME.

Currently, if Wayland is a requirement, then we’re bound to GNOME, KDE Plasma (and COSMIC in the near future). Furthermore, there are a couple of window managers (of which Sway and Hyprland are the big ones) that are properly supported in Wayland. If, for whatever reason, GNOME is not it, then move on to explore the next. Rinse and repeat.

Regarding Arch; Arch is mostly an exercise in how good your system administration skills are. Btw, don’t feel intimidated by this as the skills required are linearly correlated with the complexity of the system. E.g. a clean install with EndeavourOS that relies mostly on container-solutions for its packages and is set with (GRUB-)Btrfs+Timeshift/Snapper -comes pre-configured on Garuda Linux- should be a rock solid and easy to maintain system compared to one that relies on repos with ‘frozen’ packages but still chooses to install plenty through the AUR natively. (Btw, the second system I just described is bound to break and is not only very ‘complex’, but the combination of ‘frozen’ packages + over reliance on installing AUR packages natively is just a very bad practice. Note that on their own either ‘frozen’ packages or over reliance on installing AUR natively ain’t that bad or complex, the combination -however- is astronomically bad and ‘complex’.)

Question: Is there any reason why you seem to gravitate towards rolling release distros? ‘Skill-ceiling’ is (surprisingly enough) grossly the same on Linux Mint and Arch, it’s the ‘skill-floor’ in which there’s a (significant) discrepancy between the two. Distros with actually high skill ceilings would be the likes of Gentoo and NixOS.

Gaming and programming should be fine regardless of which distro you decide to stick to.

throwawayish ,

WRT Arch: it grabbed my interest because having the option for the most current updates sounded appealing. It may not be necessary, but if the situation arises and it would help, I’d like to have it.

Fair. This is a legitimately good reason.

The Arch wiki has also been a big incentive

Friendly reminder that the contents of the excellent ArchWiki translate surprisingly well to other distros.

as well as the AUR

Which you’re free to benefit from regardless of which distro you end up installing as long as an Arch container offered through e.g. Distrobox is setup on your system. Not all packages are supported like this, as custom kernels offered through the AUR have to be installed natively and thus require to be installed on Arch(-based distros). But most of your needs from the AUR (or literally any repo/package from any of the supported containers distros) should be satisfied regardless.

If I’m not mistaken, Arch is also a distro that allows me to pick and choose aspects of my operating system with intention as opposed to having a system that comes with stuff that I don’t use or need.

Correct. Though, while Arch defaults to a blank slate. Other distros like Debian, Fedora and openSUSE (to name a few) do offer similar functionality on specific ISOs (or just as an option in the YaST installer for openSUSE).

I was also looking at TW because it was a distro that supported KDE, but I’m learning from this thread that KDE is not ideal if I’m looking for a Wayland session.

That’s perhaps a bit too harsh on KDE Plasma without giving it an honest shot first. Don’t let others’ opinion on the matter deter your willingness to genuinely explore, experience and judge for yourself 😉. Furthermore, it’s important to note that the development of Wayland has accelerated (relatively) recently. Therefore, the issues of others might have already been resolved since.

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