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java , to KDE in Vote on the new KDE Plasma Logo!

Half gear is the only one that reminds me of KDE when I’m looking at it. Some other options look good, but they are not related to KDE.

Pantherina OP ,

Agree a lot, but I also dont like the gear one

ChairmanMeow , to KDE in Vote on the new KDE Plasma Logo!
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David_Edmundson - KDE Developer

Don’t create a social media hype of something before discussing it with Plasma devs. That’s obviously going to antagonise people, and puts us in an awkward situation afterwards.

Looks like this “vote” is not really official and blindsided the devs a bit.

radioactiveradio , to KDE in Vote on the new KDE Plasma Logo!

The first one but I much prefer the old one over this.

VHS , (edited ) to KDE in How to render videos with multiple audio tracks with 2 languages (select between tracks)?
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You can just use MKVToolNix to add the second track to the MKV file after rendering, it's still another step but doesn't require re-encoding.

If you're just trying to multiplex tracks and not actually edit the video, I'd recommend doing it entirely with MKVToolNix and skipping Kdenlive for this use. I've done this previously to combine a subbed video and a dubbed one into one file, you can offset or stretch the audio if needed as well.

Pantherina , to KDE in Klevernotes: UI changes, performance improvements and more!

Cool app! I use Markdown a lot but think it makes little sense for writing notes. You want the text you write resemble what you mean, its for yourself not some latex project others should read.

So I prefer Nextclouds editor a lot. Using something similar would be revolutionary, for sure an efficient Qt/Iced app is nice, but its nothing new.

diazona ,
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@Pantherina @louis_sch Markdown does resemble what you mean though. Like, that's part of the intent of Markdown (and also part of why it became so popular), that the raw markup is readable and lends itself to being understood in the same way as the formatted version. The markup for emphasis actually looks like emphasis; the markup for a list looks like a list; likewise for a section header, or a table or footnote if you're using a variant that supports those, or so on. So I don't think that particular argument that Markdown is not good for note-taking holds up very well.

Pantherina ,

Sorry “display what you mean” is of course a “WYGIWYM” triggerword. I mean notes should have bold headers, not hashtags. It is readable but its strange to use. Why not use plain text then? I think the separation between writing and viewing is strange, as this makes little sense for stuff you write and read alone.

diazona ,
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@Pantherina "I mean notes should have bold headers, not hashtags." OK, but that reflects what you want from a notes app, not what everyone wants. And of course that's totally fine, you can get that from a notes app that has WYSIWYG formatting if you find that it works for you. But I would suggest that it doesn't make sense for you to enter a discussion about a Markdown notes app and tell a bunch of people, for many of whom that app probably works pretty well, that they're making a bad choice to use it because it doesn't offer the behavior you want.

For what it's worth, I think a lot of people use Markdown notes apps in a way that you might not be considering. Like, this separation between writing and viewing that you're talking about simply doesn't exist in my note-taking workflow. I usually just read the raw markup, possibly with some minimal formatting added on by whatever app I'm using.

Pantherina ,

But I would suggest that it doesn’t make sense for you to enter a discussion about a Markdown notes app and…

I dont. I just think that writing inline Markdown formatting is really nice and better than clicking buttons, and at the same time I think that Nextcloud Notes has a pretty nice concept.

So it you view the raw code always, what is the benefit of markdown here? I dont see how


<span style="color:#323232;">### Header
</span>

Is better than


<span style="color:#323232;">--- Header ---
</span>

Which is what I normally use as header formatting in scripts etc.

ianp5a , (edited )
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@Pantherina @diazona @louis_sch
Having an option to choose should keep twice as many people happy. The markdown apps I use, don't show any formatting marks, and have style icons. Lots of us outside the IT world are used to this wysiwyg way.

louis_sch OP ,

I can understand the use case for WYSIWYG and I have thought about it many time, but I have not found a good enough solution to integrate it into the app.

At the beginning, I made the choice to use the Markdown format for a pretty selfish reason. This was just a private project for me to learn both C++ and markdown. Now that it kind of got out of hand in that regard (I’m pretty happy about it), I really don’t regret Markdown.

Your note are stored directly on your drive in a markdown file, which mean that, if for whatever reason you want to open it outside of the app, you can, without any issue.

Now, for the editor/preview. Both can be disable (not at the same time), so you can just focus on the editor, or just focus on the final result. You can also just print your note as a Pdf, I’ve wrote some school project paper like this lol.

I hope it makes sens, it’s a bit early here, let me know if you want more info :-)

Pantherina ,

Did you try Nextcloud notes? I think it is pretty cool.

Does it use Pandoc or something else for the PDF conversion? Very cool!

louis_sch OP ,

I don’t have next cloud but yes I saw their note app. This kind of wysiwyg is ok imo, and that’s what I would do if I had a solution for this issue (still searching to this day).

Nop, I grab the pdf directly from the preview which is basicly a Web page

Pantherina ,

I am also not sure how this could work, their approach is very different and likely more messy. Switching between codeview and WYSIWYG view also has some issues, like backspace not switching to the previous line etc.

louis_sch OP ,

Well, I could not have found a better argument to defend markdown. Bravo !

Moshpirit , to KDE in KleverNotes: Monthly news
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Looks promising ♥️

louis_sch OP ,

Thanks, I’m doing my best to add features.

If you have any idea let me know, currently I’m adding features that are useful for me, but I would love to help other too :-)

ADHDefy , to KDE in Vote on the new KDE Plasma Logo!
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Triangles is so dope

UnfortunateShort , to KDE in Vote on the new KDE Plasma Logo!

That link is not viewable with Firefox for Android and NoScript (installed, not enabled). Based on the thumbnail I’d say top right two.

cosmicrookie ,
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UnfortunateShort ,

Much appreciated 👍

I like the Triangles I think

Pantherina OP ,

It isnt? I had that too, try to disable Noscript? I use Noscript and ublock too, for some reason KDE Discuss loaded forever in the past, but now works again

Pantherina , to KDE in Plasma 6 (Wayland) is laggy on my laptop running on 6th gen i5

Try creating a new user profile as another commenter said it might be plasma 5 configs messing with Plasma 6.

This would be another bug though

YamiYuki OP ,

I discovered that the fan just died.

Sorry for this. I didn’t check that old laptop till yesterday to check for other issues unrelated to Plasma, which was when I discovered that the fan died.

It’s a spare laptop a friend gave to me recently.

Pantherina ,

Water cooling!

not_amm , to KDE in KleverNotes: Some news about the project!

This looks great! I mean, I like Ghostwriter, but it isn’t exactly a note-taking app, less so KWrite and Kate, This will be a great complement and help to complete the basic needs of users I hope :)

louis_sch OP ,

Thanks ! And that was pretty much what I told myself when I came up with the idea, but the other markdown note taking app where to much for me :-D

macattack , to KDE in KleverNotes: Some news about the project!

It’s great to see development in this area! Thank you for sharing and good luck with the app

louis_sch OP ,

Thanks !

Vilian , to KDE in KleverNotes: Some news about the project!

could be too much of a dream some KDE app implement typst.app ? i don’t know KleverNotes could do that, typst is very scientific specific

louis_sch OP ,

2 things :

  • It’s fairly new
  • it’s pretty complex

Let me explain a bit more :

  • Since it’s that new, I’m “afraid” that this won’t last and would prefer something more future-proof, like LaTeX (won’t implement it either, see point 2)
  • Klevernotes is focus on Markdown, I like to add some small “extensions” here and there, but I would like to keep the general feeling of markdown, typst or LaTeX are both to different from markdown imo.

Note : I might implement KaTeX (would be useful for my math class lol) but I didn’t made enough research about it to make it something certain

mox , to KDE in How to render videos with multiple audio tracks with 2 languages (select between tracks)?

Not rendering. Muxing, which is short for multiplexing. Lots of software can do this, including MKVToolNix, ffmpeg, and GPAC/MP4Box. If you're also encoding the video, Handbrake could do the job.

winnie , to KDE in Klevernotes: UI changes, performance improvements and more!
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Would it ever support Windows?

I know that some KDE apps do.

louis_sch OP ,

I have no problem with supporting Windows. However this means that I should build it and try it on Windows, which is not my top priority when it comes to OS support right now.

Flatpak is currently giving me enough problem tbh :/

carlschwan Mod , to KDE in Klevernotes: UI changes, performance improvements and more!

Great!

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