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xenspidey ,

I agree that the system could use some adjustment, however, strictly popular vote should not be the fix. That would leave electing the president down to 3-4 counties in the entire country.

dingus ,
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Oh no! What will we do if the actual majority has a democratic voice as opposed to the “silent majority” that isn’t a majority at all but has achieved outsized importance through gerrymandering, stacking the courts, purging people from voters roles, and making voting difficult for the actual majority.

I could give a fuck about the uneducated fucking yokels who have held this country back for 200 fucking years.

timbuck2themoon ,

Apparently the Senate is not enough and we need to cede an entire other branch as well to the minority. That’s apparently fair…

PowerCrazy ,

That is the current excuse the blue team uses to support capitalist policies and fool the people who vote for them, yea.

PowerCrazy ,

Yea those fucking rednecks who work with their HANDS instead of touching computers, like a good liberal should. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain

dingus ,
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When I refer to yokels, I am referring to Christianity and in general puritanism and am in no way meaning to denigrate the working class, chum. Those Christians purposefully don’t learn things and try to prevent their families from learning things, whereas the working class learns difficult specialized labor.

Yokel means an uneducated, unsophisticated person from the countryside, not the working class and blue collar labor. I’m sorry for any confusion on this part.

PowerCrazy ,

If you are referring to religion, then just say that? I’m no fan of the christian right, but fortunately they are more of a boogie man these days as opposed to the 80’s and 90’s. For the uneducated, well if you want to continue to not give a fuck about them, then I’m sure all the people in Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana will surely be lining up to vote for whatever out of touch liberal you are supporting instead of the person who actually engages with them.*

*In this hypothetical, Trump was the person who actually engaged with them, and he won in 2016 because of that outreach.

dingus ,
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You know, I made my account on Lemmy.ml for a reason, so maybe you can back off and realize we’re on the same page. Like dude, my first comment was advocating direct democracy, not praising the fucking sick broken system we live in. I’m not exactly a fan of political parties here myself, or the founding fathers, or the constitution, so take it down a notch.

And to be fair, Trumps outreach was being a racist fucking pig and authoritarian who promoted killing your enemies. Is that the outreach you want us to use, or aren’t we supposed to be out here punching Nazis, not breaking bread with them? Like holy shit you had me until that bullshit. They voted for him because they want to be able to grab women by the pussy with no repercussion like he does not because they’re fucking misguided.

PowerCrazy ,

I disagree with your characterization of even a majority of 2016 Trump voters. But I don’t want to re-litigate 2016. I just want to remind you not to dismiss wide swaths of the country for classist reasons, and using term like “yokel” or whatever classist term you love to use to otherize isn’t helpful.

dingus ,
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You’re the one acting like working class people must be uneducated, and thus a word like “yokel” would apply to them.

Also, Trump literally had no platform in 2020. How is that engaging the voters? What did he engage them on, sir?

I’m not re-litigating 2016, I’ve spent 7 years being browbeat by the “Fuck your feelings” Trump voters who are happy to abuse minorities and anyone they deem “different.” So the fuck out of here with that noise.

I live in the city where Trump and his goons had someone extrajudicially murdered, so it hits pretty fucking close to home, thanks.

Drusas ,

I thought you were sincere before, but you've got to be a troll to try and link those things together.

GiantRobotTRex ,

The four most populated states aren’t anywhere near enough for a majority, let alone four counties.

And isn’t it a problem with the current system that votes in a handful of swing states matter far more than votes elsewhere? In a popular vote, every vote is equally important regardless of where you live.

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