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Hazdaz ,

TNG > OG series any day, everyday.

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
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It took me a long time to reach this conclusion. I love TOS, and the characters are cultural icons, but when I want to fanboy over the whole “philosophy” of Star Trek, I’m thinking of TNG every single time.

Hazdaz ,

I’ll probably get wrecked in here for saying this,but I never liked TOS. It’s so campy and hokey. Even the movies with the original cast don’t interest me all that much. I respect them for paving the way for TNG, but I’ll never choose TOS over TNG.

CrayonMaster ,

TOS is fun to watch in an ironic, cult classic, campy, laughing-at-it-not-with-it way. TNG was the first actually good star trek.

BeigeAgenda ,
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I have never watched TOS, but I have watched all the TOS movies and I am fond of them.

Hazdaz ,

I wouldn’t say they are related at all, at least in terms of how the TV comes off vs the movies even though the cast is the same. TOS TV show is not too dissimilar to the old school Batman show in it’s corniness. Not to that level of silliness, but they were contemporaries of each other when they aired on TV in the late 60s.

wjmalik ,
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@Hazdaz @BeigeAgenda the hippie vibe was part of the general campy tone those days - see The Man from U. N. C. L. E., Rowan and Martin's Laugh In, That Was The Week That Was, or The Wild Wild West for other variations on that theme. Hi-tech, Steampunk, SciFi, variety, news spoofs - all had similar tone

Hazdaz ,

Oh I get that was the tone of shows back then. Get Smart was another one. It’s just not my cup of tea for the most part.

Of course the irony is that I think shows (especially movies) these days are too serious and I almost wish they were a little more fun and playful like they were back in the 60s/70s. Just as long as they don’t go too silly.

kamenlady ,
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I always barely get through TOS’ third season, it leaned too much into the psychedelic feel of the era.

wjmalik ,
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@kamenlady big Yes. "Come now, to Eden, oh, brother" indeed. Just a tad too much Tim Leary.

rdviii ,
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@BeigeAgenda @Hazdaz
I'm old enough that there was only one Trek when I started. My take on a recent rewatch: https://rdvlivefromtokyo.blogspot.com/2021/09/ranking-star-trek-original-series.html?m=1

ZoopZeZoop ,

I agree. TOS has some interesting characters and fun moments, but I just can’t get into like I get into TNG. TNG is a series I can watch start to finish and all the movies and then start right over and watch it all again. TOS is one I might re-watch every 5+ years to refresh my memory, but I’ll put it on exclusively while I’m doing something else so I don’t waste my attention. My Dad loves TOS and TNG, and regularly references TOS, expecting me to remember episode names and whole plot lines. Oops.

zaphod ,
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That’s actually why can rewatch TOS endlessly but TNG only occasionally. TOS is that light popcorn fare that’s entertaining but you don’t take very seriously. TNG is serious sci-fi that challenges the audience often with very difficult subject matter. The latter is objectively the better show but if I’m looking for something to throw on for casual fun, for me it’s TOS all the way.

kamenlady ,
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Same, though there’s one i can really watch endlessly: TAS. Giant Spock melting minds with normal Spock always gets me.

AEsheron ,

I tried to go back and watch it as part of a kind of personal nerd pilgrimage. I just couldn’t get through it to save my life. Then I hit the beginning of TNG and was shocked, that was not what I remembered at all from all the reruns I saw growing up. I’m honestly still kind of shocked it lasted long enough to grow the beard.

Hazdaz ,

I really think that can be said for a lot of shows. First few episodes, and sometimes the first few seasons don’t hit like the later ones. Simpsons, Seinfeld, TNG, Arrested Development and a lot of other shows were constantly on the cusp of getting canceled until they got their audience and the writers hit their stride with the story.

It happens so much to shows that we know ended up turning out good, that it always makes me wonder how many shows were canceled a few episodes or maybe a season or two sooner than they should have.

abbadon420 ,

That is very well said. Tng embodies the philosophy of start trek better.

eran_morad ,

Unfair advantage, TNG has Picard.

Hazdaz , (edited )

Picard is definitely the top card there, but seriously the rest of the cast was damn good too.

Had a rather large crush on Beverly and Troy. Hubba hubba

eran_morad ,

mos def

Dee ,
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I actually don’t think he had a role in TNG.

lingh0e ,

He may have been credited under his birth name Dante Smith… or his new name Yasiin Bey. In any case he’s most definitely Mos Def.

HandwovenConsensus ,

Star Trek: Picard has Picard too…

Hupf ,

Unfortunately, it also has hubris.

eldavi ,

unpopular opinion: the first 3 seasons of tng were the best

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
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Ooh, that’s a spicy take. I like it.

xgebi ,
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@eldavi @Hazdaz I’m happy that Star Trek is big enough for a lot of people to find their favorite parts. I love all the engine room scenes in VOY

loom_in_essence ,

I love the first two seasons for their episodic adventure structure. But I also greatly appreciate the character driven structure of seasons 3+ and I definitely think the aesthetic changes for s3 were an unadulterated improvement.

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