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Have you ever considered that the Prime Directive is not only not ethical, but also illogical, and perhaps morally indefensible?

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I mean, Alex Kurtzman hired the guy, and is EP if "Lower Decks" along with all the other shows...

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Dave Filoni/Kathleen Kennedy situation but in Star Trek.

I'm not sure what, exactly, you mean by this, but both of those people have had pretty acclaimed careers.

I find it hard to imagine looking at the Trek series since 2017 and making a convincing case that the franchise is being mishandled.

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Let your freak flag fly, maaaaaaaan.

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Okay, hear me out:

Star Trek: In Space!

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I couldn't agree less re: the 32nd century. They've created an interesting setting, and I'm glad they're going to keep it alive.

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I was fully expecting a villain (possibly because every press release has referred to a threat), but I hope it's a unique flavour of villain.

It sounds like he's going to play one of the kids' dad or something - given the 32nd century status quo, a more political antagonist could be fun.

Maybe a Terra Prime type or New Essentialist type?

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I think the cause of the Burn is a nearly-perfect example of Star Trek's humanist values, and find it interesting when people feel the need to go out of their way to misrepresent it with words like "magic" in an effort to justify their dislike of it.

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I believe I did responf directly to your misrepresentation of the facts, but do go on.

(please don't go on)

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If you have to make things up that weren't in the episode, I'm going to respectfully suggest that your point is pretty bad.

I'm also going to suggest that you know that it's pretty bad, which is why you chose to employ such a weak rhetorical device to begin with.

But sure, I'm the one that's offended! lol

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I don't know that I agree that "telepathic" is quite the right word - Su'Kal was a polyploidal mutant whose genes were affected by the dilithium in the environment - a sci-fi extension of a real genetic phenomenon that can occur when extreme environmental stresses are present. The explanation they gave was more scientific that many of those that we've had across the history of the franchise.

At the end of the day, if it doesn't work for everyone, that's fine - I personally think it's a very TOS/TNG idea, sort of a "Charlie X" by way of "The Survivors", and I think it's pretty obvious that the producers wanted the source to have a "human face" if you'll forgive the expression.

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Oh boy, one day we should probably have the Great Borg Queen Debate - it would be a thread for the ages...

we’ve progressed over time to wanting more hard and serious technobabble.

That's the thing, I think the technobabble surrounding Su'Kal is actually pretty good. I will grant that the episode has a lot going on, and it's easy to miss, but it's solid enough that it's had me doing some light genetics research on more than one occasion.

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Kovich apparently also has Janeway's microscope in his office, though it doesn't get a close-up.

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They really should've gone with a Thermos.

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I take IMDB listings with a grain of salt, but she is listed as a costume designer for S31, as well as Captain America: Brave New World(!).

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They produced Into Darkness and Beyond, so they at least have some history with the franchise.

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If your concerns are on the creative side of things, I don't think that's really what they do - their expertise seems to be getting things made.

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These mergers can take a long time to complete, so we're probably safe for a while.

I wouldn't count on any serious going longer than five seasons under the old ownership, anyway...

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Underrated: Oh boy, time for some takes...

TOS: This might be the hardest to pick - maybe "The Corbomite Maneuver"? It's fairly well-known, but is crowded out in a season full of classics.

TAS: Pretty much everything besides "Yesteryear" is underrated, but if I have to pick one, I'd pick "The Magicks Of Megas-Tu" for sheer weirdness.

TNG: "Remember Me" - really good episode. I think it's pretty well-regarded, but it should be better regarded.

DS9: I've always been very fond of "The Sound of Her Voice," for some reason. I don't think I'd ever seen anything quite like it when it originally aired.

VOY: I think "Counterpoint" is the finest episode they ever did, but people rarely talk about it.

ENT: Uh...I guess I'll say "Daedalus" - it does a lot of worldbuilding surrounding the transporter, but isn't one of the big "lore" episodes that people tend to talk about.

DSC: "Su'Kal". The cause of the Burn is something that speaks to the humanist core of Star Trek in a way that many people seem to overlook.

PIC: "Remembrance." The first episode of the series is nearly perfect.

LD: I don't know if the nature of the show lends itself to this exercise, but I'll say "An Embarrassment of Dooplers".

PRO: "Crossroads" - the kids arriving at a turning point, and making the kinds of dumb decisions that kids make.

SNW: "Ghosts of Illyria," I guess - this series is still pretty fresh, but this is one of the better episodes that isn't a "gimmick" episode.

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I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but I didn't realize there were conspiracy theories floating around about them being fired or some nonsense. I figured the actual reason was probably pretty benign.

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I think it was a worthy experiment - take the nameless, silent extras that populate the bridge on the older shows and give them a little more to do.

But I think it created some unintended and unfortunate audience expectations. Maybe a failed experiment.

I would imagine none of those actors were under contract.

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Nope - after they were cancelled, they were allowed to go back and film some additional scenes to add to the end of the finale to give it some closure.

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I wouldn't say I found it distracting, if only because I knew it was coming, but I can definitely see the argument that it wasn' t necessary.

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Hypothetically, I think I'd structure it somewhat similarly to season 5: a couple of episodes to establish the stakes, two or three more to gather information or materials, then a couple to put the plan together and enact it, and then ideally at least one to catch up with Zora after the events of "Calpyso."

As it is, there are so many unanswered questions surrounding this mission that I hope we at least get a novel or something out of it.

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I think that's a good thing - not just for the reasons Kurtzman highlighted, but because Starfleet being in a "rebuild" phase gives them a nice excuse to put cadets to work.

I also just enjoy the 32nd century setting, so I'm glad to stick with it a while longer.

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But it took how many months of retooling to give us the last season?

Less than one, as far as I'm aware. They got permission to write and film an additional three days' worth of footage, which became the epilogue to the episode. Everything else is exactly as they orginally shot it, from what they've said.

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The DMA destroyed one station, one populated planet, and one colony that was evacuated before it struck. A sector is 20 LY across.

If they were to use the power, they could rebuild kweijan and all of the damage to planets and creatures in season four.

The finale established that the technology could reanimate a dead body, but couldn't restore minds or personalities. There's also no indication that it could build a planet or reanimate bodies that were crushed in an artificial singularity.

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Yes, it disappeared and reappeared at different locations - it did not hoover up entire sectors.

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And then they'll tell you again.

And again...

And again...

And again...

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It would have been interesting to see Walking Dead L'ak, but it was also kind of nice to see Moll accept the situation and start to trust Burnham.

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I think that makes certain assumptions about how Zora engages with the world, which may or may not be correct. I'd really like to rewatch "Calypso" as it's been ages, but Paramount+ seems to have...misplaced the Short Treks in my country.

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Whoops, fixed a typo in my comment.

What I'm trying to say is, I don't think it can be called cruelty if Zora, in her capacity as an artificial intelligence, doesn't mind. It may not be accurate to assume she will react in the way a human would.

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At this point, you're just describing a Starfleet officer.

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Zora's already demonstrated the capacity to disobey an order if she wants to.

So we don't know if Zora's being "tortured" from her perspective, and we have pretty solid evidence that she could just leave if she wants to.

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It looks like they're doing a better job of retaining props from shows once they've wrapped, so maybe there's a chance they'll put the sets in storage in case they decide to use them again - either in a movie (the rumour is/was that they want to do a streaming movie every two years), or for the occasional guest appearance on the Academy show.

But what was up with Detmer and Owo being side lined for the second half of the season.

Michelle Paradise said yesterday that both actors were unavailable during filming, having booked other projects.

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