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blady_blah ,

This is so weird. Why would they not just pay their drivers more. Add it directly to the cost of doing business. What’s the issue?

It’s like making a minimum wage for all fast food employees. All fast food establishments now have higher wage costs. So what? The cost of a hamburger goes up $0.50. All your competitors now have the same costs. How does this change anything for you? Versus going out of business?

Think about if only Uber left. That’s a lot of extra business for Lyft. What’s the big deal? Hm… maybe they have to cover the salary even if the driver doesn’t accept any rides? Maybe that’s the real issue. How do you guarantee drivers are busy and not just signing in and doing nothing and canceling offered rides? That still doesn’t seem that hard to fix.

roofuskit ,

Their only edge over taxi companies was their ability to avoid current labor laws.

sxan ,
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I don’t know if taxi companies have upped their online game, but Uber and Lyft’s huge advantage used to be that the customer could see what the ride would cost them, when their ride would arrive, and pay online. Those of us old enough can remember days when you’d worry about whether a taxi driver was going to take the scenic route, whether you’d have enough cash, whether they’d accept a credit card, whether they’d add some surcharge to credit card transactions, and then having to trust your credit card to yet another random stranger. Having to use taxis used to be a reliable source of stress when traveling; Uber utterly removed that (if you were male; I know women have additional sources of angst when getting into cars with strangers).

If Taxi companies have gotten their online shit together, where I can see the entire transaction - times and costs - in advance, then yeah, I’ll agree with you. But originally, Uber and Lyft were huge game changers for customers.

roofuskit ,

Taxis have upped their app game. And a lot of people prefer taxis and drivers who actually know where they are going. Uber and Lyft started by discounting rides and paying for them with VC money. After they took enough taxi market share they had to switch to making a profit so they took it from driver pay. Their only path for making a profit is their ability to skirt labor laws. That’s why they want to pull out of markets that force them to pay drivers better.

sxan ,
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You’ve convinced me. I’ll never take Uber or Lyft again.

Tell me one thing: if I’m visit some city, whether in the US or elsewhere, is there a reliable taxi app that works pretty much everywhere, or do I have to search for a local one?

Spaceballstheusername ,

They’re afraid more cities will do this and as they increase prices they won’t be able to take more of the pie.

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