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BobbyBandwidth ,
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Why do you think the cops have tanks now

TheDubz87 ,

I was gonna say, we get shot for protesting now…probably gotta change that part first.

DaGeek247 ,
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Now? The pinkertons never left, and they started ages ago. Protesters got shot then too.

SheeEttin ,

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain

Thteven ,
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People got shot before too. Lots of people. The fight for worker’s rights was long and bloody.

…wikipedia.org/…/Anti-union_violence_in_the_Unite…

…wikipedia.org/…/Union_violence_in_the_United_Sta…

www.pbs.org/wgbh/…/theminewars-labor-wars-us/

TheDubz87 ,

I misspoke…er…typed, we get shot and have no real way to defend ourselves being wildly outgunned by police. Thanks for that PBS article btw. I hadn’t heard of a lot of these happenings, and I’m still reading through it.

oSillyScope ,

You think we are outgunned? Really? That’s awful silly of you.

ToastyWaffles ,
@ToastyWaffles@lemmygrad.ml avatar

What makes you think we’re not outgunned?

Even in the US where you can own firearms, your 5.56 rounds aren’t going to do shit against an armored vehicle, or handle drone strikes or national guard elements. Yet liberals are frothing at the mouth to take guns away from the working class, when personal firearms are already woefully inadequate for fighting against a tyrannical government.

Chocrates ,

We are trying to stop people gunning down children. I don’t give a fuck about your gun you target shoot with.

Millie ,

Sure, if the civilian population of the US had to actively repel an invading army with their own organized militia, it’d be completely one-sided.

But if the US military were engaged in a war against its own civilian population, it wouldn’t be a remotely straightforward fight. They’d be dealing with a local population and the emotional impact of fighting their own population at the same time. Guerilla warfare in the United States would be a mess to try to deal with. We have a lot of wilderness, and the division within the military would likely be significant enough to have a major impact on any attempted operations.

The US military is really good at organizing its troops to fight for the US. Fighting against the US is a whole other can of worms. And by my count, most older vets wouldn’t be on the side of using the military against our own civilians, whether they’re otherwise more on the conservative side of politics or not.

I don’t think there’s anything like the kind of support or organization to see something like that happen, but I think it could get a whole lot uglier and more complicated than just the numbers suggest.

photonic_sorcerer ,
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Bruh, there’s no way you can take on the greatest military machine in history.

JayBaby ,

Tell that to the viet cong and the taliban

simply_surprise ,
@simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Bruh, there’s no way you can take on the greatest military machine in history.

Micah Xavier Johnson did ok.

oSillyScope ,

You forget that every part of that machine is a person. No soldier is going to attack his fellow citizens. The cops are not people, but we outnumber and outgun them by orders of magnitude. Either way I am willing to die trying. You can stand with us if the time comes or you can enjoy that boot you’re currently deep throating. The choice is yours.

cedarmesa , (edited )
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💀

morphballganon ,

Was?

Is.

fidodo ,

Strikers were bombed back in the day by aircrafts. Unionization was won through enduring warfare yet we just gave it away. Shows how powerful unionization is that the elites are completely terrified of it, and that they have surpressed the history of it so few will know how much blood was shed to get it.

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