ohlaph ,

I live 800 miles away, good luck.

Fades ,

Wen they try to force me back, and they will, I will quit.

They have just recently forced my boss to return to office 3/5 days a week. They’re coming for the workers next after admin.

Good luck filling my spot on short notice assholes

Ragnell ,
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DANGER, WILL ROBINSON! DANGER!

This is bad practice, says the joint report, because for hybrid workplaces, the mix of employees coming and going at different times a week makes it "impossible" for a manager to know how many employees are on site on a given day.

They're taking the wrong lesson from this, and are going to try to force us back to 5 days a week in the office.

silvercove ,

There are no arguments for returning to the office that make sense. People who argue against remote work are historical artefacts from a bygone age.

lemmyseizethemeans ,

Well to be fair I wouldn’t categorize the entire banking industry and investment capitalists who have over a trillion dollars in commercial mortgage backed real estate collateralized debt obligations invested in those office buildings as being from a bygone era.

TLDR It’s 2008 all over again. They bundled up commercial mortgages into securities that blackrock etc are heavily invested in. They are over leveraged because over the counter swaps still don’t require verified money in the bank to cover losses. If people are not forced to return they know the real estate market will implode and take Citibank Morgan Stanley etc with it

malloc ,

I’m okay with people returning to office. But forcing it down people’s throats when remote working has been working for the past few years is NOT okay. Fuck these out of touch companies and executives. I would rather quit than bend to their bullshit.

unsaid0415 ,

A new survey shows that the vast majority of senior executives say would’ve approached their return-to-work push “differently.”

“Differently” could mean a lot of things, but it’s not quite an admission of wrongdoing. The report, and by extension the execs, seem more annoyed by the lack of solid data on hybrid workplaces than they are concerned about employee satisfaction or the backlash they incurred.

Then why did you write the article Frank?

Viking_Hippie ,

Methinks Frank is more interested in covering his own ass than extracting the obvious conclusion from the data and statements available 🤦

DragonTypeWyvern ,

His boss told him to write a positive piece about being forced back into the office by the Worker Retrieval Gangs.

He said it was weird how much they called him “Boy.”

TornadoRex ,
@TornadoRex@lemmy.world avatar

Oh hey and look at that. It’s about to be winter which means we get to play “which office bug is going around this week?”

lemmyseizethemeans ,

Or right now actually. Huge COVID surge in Japan at the moment while everyone is forced back to the office

echodot ,

I was hospitalised the last time I had COVID I don’t want to have that again, but far more importantly I don’t want to go into the office. But I’ll be using COVID as the excuse.

pirrrrrrrr ,

Forced return to office lost around 30% of our staff. Now over-work and a lack of staff replacement, because nobody wants the in-office job, mean that we are losing even more staff to stress and illness leave.

And suddenly all these contracted products and platforms, that are already being paid for (because nobody checks if staff resources are available in advance) are failing or stalling because there is no available staff or time to deploy them.

Not to mention how much time and efficiency is being lost by forcing the rest of us to operate in an office.

Ew0 ,
@Ew0@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Sounds like time to smile, wave, jump ship!

pirrrrrrrr ,

I’m looking, but Senior Sysadmin roles are not plentiful.

Ew0 ,
@Ew0@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Fair play :-) Hope it works out!

Veraxus ,
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The data was already there. Twenty years of it. Remote work is not remotely new. They chose to ignore it because executive fee-fees are more important than facts and data.

sebinspace ,

“Facts don’t care about feelings”

RQG ,
@RQG@lemmy.world avatar

It works the other way around too, that’s the problem.

flipht ,

This is a minor wave I've seen of "oopsies" posts about work from home.

And if history is any teacher, and considering that they spent the last few months pushing the "workers actually want to come back!" fantasy narrative, I expect in a few weeks the pieces will start being about blaming workers for the return to work pushes.

jubilationtcornpone ,

“We told our workers they could stay home forever [by quitting] if they wanted but all [the ones we didn’t just constructively dismiss] of them all but demanded that we let them return to the office.” –Some CEO, Probably

Kbin_space_program ,

Executives are interested in preserving their buddies and their investments in large corporate rental space.

E.g. Concord-Pacific, by itself, owns something 60-80% of all of the office space in all of downtown Vancouver. Easily into the tens, if not hundreds of billions of dollars tied up in imaginary value.

Including the massive convention center and almost all of Gastown.

Arxir ,

I doubt that executives are that clever. I’ve seen this conspiracy theory circulating atm, but it relies on so many assumptions that I consider it unlikely. It assumes that executives “help” each other out by willfully spending money for office space and all it costs, that could be saved in expenses by employees working from home. Corporations are obsessed with cost cutting, why would they willfully waste money? It also assumes that corporations help each other out. Considering the fierce competitiveness corporations are exposed to and how this extends to all fields, including office space, employees, office equipment, etc., this is nothing more than a conspiracy theory. Another assumption is that the push for a return to the office comes from ALL or mostly all executives. Is there actually data supporting this claim? Who is really doing this?

What I think is the real reason, is far simpler and requires less mental acrobatics to justify: The people, who are pushing for a return to the office, (a) have a stake in the performance of the company and (b) are not working themselves when they are supposed to be working from home. They then project their own behavior upon others, and therefore push for a return to the office to, in their mind, prevent their enployees from slacking off.

bane_killgrind ,

All large hedge funds and investment portfolios have a real estate component. They lose money if they do it. They think on a level of "if everyone does this what will happen"

Arxir ,

They lose money if they do it.

Do what?

Executives are interested in preserving their buddies and their investments in large corporate rental space.

How does forcing their own workers back into their office raise or lower the value of their own real estate? If they use it, they won’t sell it, value is irrelevant then.

echodot ,

But lots of companies that are nothing to do with hedge fund management or also pushing people do return to the office.

Gingerlegs ,

It’s almost as if they just listened to their employees rather than 3 year old data…

Razorwire666 ,

Execs have never listened to their employees, why would they start now.

PunnyName ,

We really need a way to make them listen. There gotta be some way to collectively do this…

echodot ,

You can tell they’re really don’t listen when they start putting up suggestion boxes.

Our company did that and when all of the suggestions were pay rise and work from home, they decided they weren’t working and took them away.

dub ,

lol out of touch executives and dumb ideas. name a better combo

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