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EmperorHenry ,
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He still supports Biden…The same Biden who forced railroad workers to stop being on strike. Biden who wrote the crime bill that exploded our prison population. Biden who supports every war we’re involved in, all of which are illegal. Biden who was in favor of segration back in the day

Bernie had two primaries rigged against him in a row and didn’t say anything about it. Speaking as a disabled person, I appreciate what he has to say about a lot of things, but what good is he if he’s just going to cave in and do the same shit as the rest of them? He keeps saying that Biden is his friend. Well Bernie has some shitty friends.

hydroel ,

Could you remind me, what was the alternative to Biden again?

Armen12 ,

An actual leader who isn’t one foot in the grave

EmperorHenry ,
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No matter who you vote for, the same shit happens. We don’t live in a democracy

hydroel ,

I understand the dislike of some of Biden’s choices and policies and also disapprove of some of them, but let’s not pretend these are on the same level as the buffoon’s.

Nemo ,

Abstention. Voting the lesser evil is a downward spiral.

unfreeradical ,
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Are you rejecting a call to build organized labor across the country because you have a grudge against one man for endorsing another man?

EmperorHenry ,
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He’s never actually going to fight for anything. keep a close eye on the issue. As soon as the democrats encounter on obstacle they’ll declare that they “don’t have the votes” and then say “vote blue no matter who!” and then continue to do nothing even if they win.

unfreeradical , (edited )
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The call is to build organized labor across the country, giving workers the power to shape society toward our interests, not to expect the ruling class to offer voluntary concessions that have no benefit to them.

EmperorHenry ,
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I’ve heard all this before. It never works.

what I mean by that is that all these politicians talk about doing good things, but they never actually do anything. They just keep saying “we don’t have the votes yet” and then they give up, because they never actually wanted to fix anything.

unfreeradical ,
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Again, I think you are misunderstanding the message.

The speech is not giving a promise that Bernie Sanders will make gains on behalf of workers.

Rather, it is giving encouragement to workers to make gains for ourselves, by building our own power against the oligarchs.

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