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13esq , to Work Reform in If you ever worked shifts and transitioned to a 9 to 5 job, how difficult was the change?

I hated shifts, I was constantly switching from days to nights, 9-5 is much better for me!

13esq , to Work Reform in What kind of institutional gaslighting is this?

Being in a union is as much about sticking up for your fellow workers as is it is about "looking after No1".

Sure, if you don't like your job you could just quit and move on, but that's not always a choice. You could organise as a workforce that fights to make work better not just for yourself and your colleagues, but for your fellow countrymen and your children's generation too.

13esq , (edited ) to Work Reform in Is it just me or are 9-5 hours naturally the most stifling?

Spoken like someone that’s never had to work night shifts in a production environment.

Smell the roses.

13esq , to Work Reform in Elon Musk says Tesla workers will be sleeping on the factory floor when new $25,000 EV goes into production next year

The irony

13esq , to Work Reform in I'm not asking to be rich.

For me you’re not quite right.

I own a nice house with a big garden and a decent car. And whilst I’m happy that I don’t have to spend money on subsidising a landlord or have to rely on public transport it’s not the owning of the assets that bring me joy within itself.

I’m at the point where a bigger house or a better car would absolutely not make me happier, they might be nice, but that’s it.

Money only brings happiness as much as it can reduce the causes of stress in your life. Thinking “when I can buy that, I’ll finally be happy” is a dangerous mindset, because unless you’re Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos, there’s always going to be someone that has bigger and better things than you.

13esq , to Work Reform in I'm not asking to be rich.

Yep. Not being constantly petrified of an unexpected bill is a type of happiness!

13esq , to Work Reform in 92% of young people would sacrifice other perks for a 4-day workweek—here's what they'd give up

This argument is quite pointless and not really going anywhere

13esq , to Work Reform in 92% of young people would sacrifice other perks for a 4-day workweek—here's what they'd give up

Your being facetious and not arguing in good faith.

We could get by in our modern lives with very little impact to the average persons life withno planes.

13esq , to Work Reform in 92% of young people would sacrifice other perks for a 4-day workweek—here's what they'd give up

I could argue that we’d get by without planes. There are many much more environmentally friendly modes of travel.

Now you tell me how we get by without electricity, especially from sources that are environmentally friendly.

13esq , (edited ) to Work Reform in 92% of young people would sacrifice other perks for a 4-day workweek—here's what they'd give up

Speak for yourself. I work as an electrician at a hydropower plant. I suppose you could debate whether my job role matters or not, but if you like that your kettle, TV, phone and everything else that requires electricity works, then I think you’d be hard pushed.

I do agree strongly that some of the worst paid jobs are the most valuable. One of the best things to come out of the pandemic was a big push for unionism and I hope it stays that way.

Unfortunately in our current society, we need to work. I quite like the idea of not being destitute when I reach retirement age. I’d love to spend all my time following my passions but I need to be realistic.

The climate problem is interesting. Some countries are moving towards being CO2 neutral. I hope that others will follow them and it won’t be too late.

13esq , (edited ) to Work Reform in 92% of young people would sacrifice other perks for a 4-day workweek—here's what they'd give up

Right. It’s about incentives. I’m not going to work harder for more hours, but offer me more money or less hours and let’s talk.

13esq , to Work Reform in Being Mean to Scabs Is Working

There are people in Scotland that crossed the coal miner’s picket lines in the 80’s who are pariahs to the day.

It’s not a nice situation for anyone but they damn well knew that they were selling their souls. Fuck them.

13esq , to Work Reform in 400% turnover rate

I can only speak for the UK but in the 60’s and 70’s here, you could be a welder, marry a nurse and buy an average three bedroom detached house with a nice garden. I’m not saying that it would have been a cake walk, but it was absolutely possible if you put your mind to it.

Now those combined wages will struggle to pay the rent on the shittest property in town whilst your landlord struts about telling you how entitled you are.

13esq , to Work Reform in I think minors need a union, may help with the safety issues at the work place

I agree. I worked McDonald’s whilst I was at college. I learnt a huge amount about dealing with different types of people, both customers and staff!

A lot of people in the UK look down upon people working low tier service roles which I now strongly defend. It also taught me, as it did you, how stupid and ignorant an average person can be and I always try to keep that in mind not just for the actions of others, but my own.

I’m a “skilled” worker now, but should needs must, I’d be absolutely unopposed to going back to a job like McDonald’s.

I used to joke that I’m against national service, but that everyone should be drafted to work two years in the service industry!

13esq , to Work Reform in I think the rich need a reminder...

I mean, each to their own, but do you have a greivance with workers collectively backing themselves and their colleagues?

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