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NuPNuA , (edited ) to Star Trek in Why did Vic Fontaine sang entire songs in the later seasons of DS9?

Even in a real war civilian life continues even if you’re close to the war zone and soldiers are cycled on and off the front lines. Therefore it’s perfectly believable for the DS9 crew to be off duty and having a pint at Vic’s between missions.

NuPNuA , to Star Trek in Why did Vic Fontaine sang entire songs in the later seasons of DS9?

That’s why I love Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks at the moment. They’ve brought back the episodic take that made Trek work for five series.

Lower Decks is the most impressive. The fact that they manage to tell a full TNG era type story, with no characters feeling left out including the support cast, in half an hour a time is masterful.

NuPNuA , to Star Trek in Why did Vic Fontaine sang entire songs in the later seasons of DS9?

No, I’m British.

NuPNuA , to Star Trek in Why did Vic Fontaine sang entire songs in the later seasons of DS9?

Not everything has to “drive the plot forward”.

That’s a very modern attitude to TV that stems from series only having ten odd hours to tell a full serialised story. When you’re telling twenty plus episodic stories in the year, you have time to kick back and show stuff that isn’t crucial to the story.

NuPNuA , to Star Trek in Why did Vic Fontaine sang entire songs in the later seasons of DS9?

Only if that thirty year old in the 2020s had a poor cultural upbringing. I was seven when DS9 started, fourteen by the time it ended and only thirty-seven now. I’m well aware of Sinatra and the Rat-Pack and the Vegas scene.

NuPNuA , to Star Trek in What's your views on PIC season 3?

You don’t think that enemies of the state using technology to subtly influence members os our western society to turn them against the system is an analogy to how bot farms in China/Russia work in real life?

NuPNuA , to Star Trek in What's your views on PIC season 3?

In theory the Enterprise should have always been able to handle like that given it’s tech, they just didn’t have the budget to do in in the day.

NuPNuA , to Star Trek in Star Trek's First Gay Ship-Mates? The Star-Crossed Romance of Garak & Bashir

I’ll be honest, I’m not particularly big in shipping in general, be it gay, straight it anything else. I don’t understand the impulse to look for these connections that aren’t intended by the creator. I do understand that prior to recent times LGBT people didn’t have much representation in the official canon of most media in the same way heterosexuals did so fair dos.

NuPNuA , to Star Trek in Star Trek's First Gay Ship-Mates? The Star-Crossed Romance of Garak & Bashir

Can you cite the interview as I’ve never seen anything more than Robinson’s head canon to suggest anyone on the production intended this. Not that I care about LGBT rep in Trek, I just don’t like misinformation.

NuPNuA , to Star Trek in Star Trek's First Gay Ship-Mates? The Star-Crossed Romance of Garak & Bashir

He’s a spy, even if he wasn’t, he probably would have slept with anything if it was in furtherance of his goals.

NuPNuA , to Star Trek in Star Trek's First Gay Ship-Mates? The Star-Crossed Romance of Garak & Bashir

Have any of the writers ever confirmed that? People are quick to jump on Rick Berman tlaboti anything they didn’t like in 90s Trek, but outside of Robinson’s take, I’ve never seen any indication that anyone on the show saw the characters this way.

NuPNuA , to Star Trek in Star Trek's First Gay Ship-Mates? The Star-Crossed Romance of Garak & Bashir

I do find it funny that the moment two blokes have a close friendship on screen people are confidently declaring that they’re gay all over social media now, as if blokes aren’t able to have deep and meaningful friendships that aren’t sexual at all. As you say it feels the opposite of progressive. We’ve seen it with Sam and Frodo, Cap and Bucky, Bashir and Garek, etc.

NuPNuA , to Star Trek in Star Trek's First Gay Ship-Mates? The Star-Crossed Romance of Garak & Bashir

Have any of the show runners like Ira Stephen Behr or Ron Moore actually confirmed that or is it just Andrew Robinson’s take on the scripts? I always got the impression that Garek was cracking onto Bashir until he started seeing Leeta and then he moved on.

NuPNuA , to Star Trek in Manny Coto Dies: Emmy-Winning ’24’ EP Who Created AI Drama ‘Next’ & Worked On ‘Star Trek: Enterprise’, ‘American Horror Story’ & ‘Dexter’ Was 62

I’d rather not go near that hive of scum and villainy if I can.

NuPNuA , to Star Trek in Manny Coto Dies: Emmy-Winning ’24’ EP Who Created AI Drama ‘Next’ & Worked On ‘Star Trek: Enterprise’, ‘American Horror Story’ & ‘Dexter’ Was 62

The Orville literally had a gay couple of aliens as main cast from day one and had an episode with one of them in fairly graphic gay orgies. It was pretty friendly from the off. The trans allegory with the kid was McFarlane making amends for the Family Guy episode with quagmires dad.

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