Strangely enough, in this particular context, I'd say PHP is better than Rust, cause at least you get a garbage collector.
Solid logic with sticking with what you can prototype in quickly. That's a lot more important than performance. However, people hate PHP, so it's gonna be hard to find help (I assume it doesn't matter, it seems like a solo mission :)
Perhaps, this type of discussion should be avoided. Maybe some kinda FAQ section where you explain why Lemmy isn't satisfactory for you.
This is difficult to describe in a few sentences, it's just a preliminary sketch of one of the sections. I need to gather my thoughts and I think once I finish it, everything will be much clearer.
ernest, I like this project cause you've been so responsive and enthusiastic.
I don't like microblogging. The only good application for it is for discovery without advanced search. I'd prefer the focus to be on well written articles, engaging podcasts, and video documentaries. What's that called macroblogging? Monetization, haha? We gotta give people an incentive to produce thoughtful content. I'd recommend integrating with LBRY. That could be another NLnet project: ActivityPub to LBRY bridge.
The microblogging aspect could be automated with a summarizer, and autoposted.
This would be an awesome service for me, I'd pay $5/mo to have it.
I don't like microblogging. The only good application for it is for discovery without advanced search
I am currently working on a search engine. It will be more contextual, with the ability to choose the search area and filter search results. But I understand what you mean and I also understand why Lemmy maintainers made that design decision. However, I believe that cutting off such a large part of the fediverse is not the best.
I want /kbin to be simple and modular because I want to give people a choice in how it looks. Ultimately, it can be a page like it is now, or just a link/article aggregator, or bloggin platform, or an events browser, or streams browser. I want /kbin to be a window into the fediverse. The person who encounters the fediverse for the first time on /kbin will have the opportunity to explore the entire rich ecosystem, and over time may want to move on to more dedicated solutions, which is cool.
Combining a link aggregator and microblog is not my original idea. In addition to Reddit, I drew inspiration from two Polish social portals:
Strims - probably the closest to /kbin - collapsed several years ago due to the owner's misguided decisions. One of them was to delete the microblog section against the will of the community. Decentralization is supposed to solve this problem.
Wykop - one of the most popular social portals in Poland with a huge user base. Unfortunately, this year a new version was released that is slowly killing the service. In addition, it is sponsored by political parties, which especially now, just before the elections, makes it unusable for me. Despite having an account there for 15 years and a lot of sentiment, I have recently almost stopped visiting it. Decentralization is supposed to solve this problem.
We gotta give people an incentive to produce thoughtful content. I'd recommend integrating with LBRY
I'll take a closer look at LBRY because I've only heard a little bit about it so far. Personally, I'm a supporter of free and open knowledge on the internet for everyone. I'm also very cautious when it comes to cryptocurrencies. But I also don't like to limit myself, I like to draw inspiration from everywhere :) However, I'm keeping an eye on various projects, and lately I'm interested in #Nostr, where there are some super interesting things going on. Previously, Kbin had the option to receive Cardano donations for content, without external intermediaries, but it turned out to be too complicated and confusing for people at that time (https://streamable.com/hdr4f0).
Nevertheless, I know someone who understands this area much better than I do, and we've discussed it before @fervi.
Running a project alone isn't easy, and one of the things I would do differently is to send an email to Nlnet earlier. Maybe it's really worth presenting this vision now.
I want to focus on developing the core, as it will be the foundation for building other things, but I would be happy to help with integrations.
I assume it doesn't matter, it seems like a solo mission
I hope that I\ll only be alone for a while :) A large and important part of the Fediverse is based on PHP (Pixelfed, Friendica, WriteFreely, etc.). But you're right, it doesn't matter. If /kbin can help in any way or at least brighten the day of one person, I'm all in for it :) Currently, I want to keep an eye on the bigger picture and not get distracted from the main goal. This is additionally difficult for me because I'm not even a native speaker and I have to be very careful not to be misunderstood or inadvertently offend anyone in any way.
To be honest, it's my little obsession hahah. It started back then (http://web.archive.org/web/20180203151128/https://makigi.pl/), but I didn't have enough skills to develop such a big project. So I decided to quit my job and knock on the door of the first professional-looking IT company in the area. I asked for a free internship, I wanted to see how certain things are done and get answers to some of my questions. I met such cool people there that I stayed for a few years more than I planned ;p That led me here.
I'm an average developer, but believe me, I'm fricking stubborn.
I don't understand why all fediverse CMS written in php.
If authors used go/rust/java it should handle lots of users much easier.
Imo tools that has purpose to serve thousands of concurrent users should consider energy efficiency.
This person (link below) is creating a nice reddit alt using Rust. I know its Rust because I spoke with them. I think this php site can work very efficient with proper caching, file storage (storing images and videos elsewhere), and db optimization. I think Flask/FastAPI is quite fast as well. I ran a small site using flask with 250 concurrent users using light calculations for the backend a couple years ago on my home server and it still loaded extremely fast. I am seriously curious what sort of server or shared hosting this site is being ran off of, because one article every 15min to an hour makes me believe its not extremely bogged down with traffic, yet its still not performant. Maybe its a host issue of being ran using a slow shared hosting service, idk. https://www.reddit.com/comments/13x0hzo
If as the link suggests this is from 2018 a lot (!) has changed at least in the JS world and the Python world. Can't speak for the others. Would be nice to see the underlying paper to see how the author defines the measurements, ie whose time is being measured, system (speed), development?
/r/czech byla skvělá komunita, a když jsem si chtěl utřídit pohled na věc v aktuálním dění pročtením názorů lidí, se kterými mám podobný vibe a vnímání světa, tak /r/czech vždy bylo první místo. Já jen doufám, že se většina /r/czech přesune sem. Jak se říká: "I'm doing my part"
In general I like the idea. My only suggestion as a caveat is that whenever possible we offer non-corporate alternative URLs instead of the types of sites the fediverse is trying to improve upon.
For example, post Invidious links instead of YouTube, Nitter links instead of Twitter, and just about any link you can think of instead of Google or Facebook.
I disagree with this. I'm all for federated and non-corporate alternatives but I think we should post the source and not an alternative front-end. Those that want to use exclusively those alternative front-ends have access to browser add-ons that automatically redirect them.
Two questions: Is there any plan to add the ability to collapse comment chains? That's, like, the one big UI thing from Reddit that I'm missing. The other question is, is having the comment box for adding a top level comment at the bottom an intentional design choice, to encourage people to read the threads before commenting? I think at the very least adding a shortcut to take users to the comment box near the top would go a long way to improving usability.
Other than that, if the goal is to be a replacement for Reddit refugees, my first impressions are that this has the right recipe. Very impressive work so far.
I feel sort of lost, because one of my sources of information is cut off. Besides being able to be a part of that highly-specific community you were looking for, reddit also was very good for finding answers to any random question and avoiding bad google-search articles that are quite often unhelpful.
Yes! For me, it was extremely effective at its primary goal of being a content aggregator. I kept up with sooooo much news that was thematicly linked (national news, world news, politics, specific country's news/politics) that I could be the smartest person in most rooms I occupied in irl.
I think though that the corresponding magazines will be the first massly populated here on kbin.
This is the thing for me. I think I'm experiencing a bit of news FOMO. Reddit has been reliable for years at supplying news, cat antics, and pretty girls. I also agree that google+reddit has been really useful in solving very specific problems.
I think people are jumping the gun a bit on what Kbin is and are expecting it to be as huge as Reddit which it might never be. Most of my news I’m getting via the free version of Feedly which is an RSS reader and I’m only really using Kbin to scratch that itch for a bit of commenting.
I hope people are exploring their options with being able to interact with Lemmy and Beehaw boards via Federation too. If this setup ever gets as big as Reddit it’ll be through the federated whole not one individual site. Considering how much data costs to host I think pushing one site towards a monopoly will always force increased advertIsing and with popularity comes financial predators. This is of course what Reddit is going through now.
I'm no longer in the sadness stage of grief, now I am angry. I have thought of all the stupid things they've done since I joined in 2018
First they made the awful new layout
Then they promised to implement css in new reddit, only to never do so
Then they introduced too many award variations, and made it so people could get them for free, removing what value the awards had.
Then they made customizable snoos, which while cute were uneccesary.
Then they introduced, barely advertised, then killed reddit cspan. Never heard of it? Can't blame you!
Then the introduced NFT avatars.
Then they did that awful april fools arg that was so hidden only a few did it and those who found the answer found it on discord. Also the answer was reddit was run on a literal potato which seems to be truer by the day.
Then they did this API shit.
During all that time where they could have introduced features that were useful to their app and fixing up the cruft with new reddit, they slaked off in order to increase profits. Only two features that were useful were ever introduced during 2018 - 2023: polls and gallery uploads. That's it.
So I am sad for the communities, but reddit itself? Nah.
i've caved a few times today, briefly. and i'm frustrated because reddit is basically google for me. i go to it for a lot of info. the fediverse can't do that just yet. if it becomes popular it will, but yeah. not yet.
and it's good for random info too. like even when i'm not looking for anything. i'm already subscribed to topics i care about. so i will see relevant things.
other sites aren't really fulfilling that for me right now.
Well since you mention it, googling things just brings me to reddit threads.
It's frustrating because 1) right now subs that are private are completely lost of information (which is good! But also, sad to lose for why we lost it) and 2) because it just shows results from reddit...
I thought for sure this was gonna be matrix lol. revolt looks interesting. is it node/js based though? I can't imagine running another electron app alongside my browser and discord lol.
The backend is based on Rust, the current web frontend is based on preact. They are working on native Android and iOS apps, and a GTK based desktop client is being planned (but on hold currently). There is potential for an ecosystem of third-party apps due to the API being fully open
Olha, estou confortável com usar pelo navegador então nem fui atrás de aplicativos.
Mas ao que tudo indica, o Kbin permite gerar um feed RSS, então pelo menos publicações podem ser vistas em outros serviços.
E imagino que, tal como a concorrência, tenha um API público próprio, então talvez tenha aplicativo próprio também.
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