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KyoStarr , to Politics in Discussion: If I think Biden is too old, and I want to support a different nominee for the Democrats, what should I do?
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I have my criticisms of Biden but voting for Trump or a 3rd party candidate this election is not tenable if you want a semblance of a Democratic Republic to exist in the US.

Trump has already been on record saying a bunch of fascist shit like that he'll root out political opponents if elected and that he'll act like a dictator on day one.

JeeBaiChow , to Politics in Discussion: If I think Biden is too old, and I want to support a different nominee for the Democrats, what should I do?

Vote for Biden anyway. The magas won’t change their vote, so splitting it on your side doesn’t help.

It’s not the system we want, but it’s the system we have.

raccoona_nongrata , to Politics in Discussion: If I think Biden is too old, and I want to support a different nominee for the Democrats, what should I do?
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There’s zero reason not to vote for someone else that you agree with more in the Democratic primary (assuming they didn’t cancel the primary in your state like they have in many).

What are the two outcomes? Either Biden wins the nomination, and maybe eeks out a win against Trump, or you get a better nominee who is more fit to win the general due to both Trump and Biden having basement level approval. It’s not exactly a win-win, but it doesn’t hurt anything either, especially when the incumbent is as unpopular as someone with 90 something felony counts. Literally anyone running in the dem primary would be better than Biden in a general.

shroomaroomboom , to Politics in Discussion: If I think Biden is too old, and I want to support a different nominee for the Democrats, what should I do?

While I think there may be a more viable candidate running, I'll vote for the more popular one, rather than risk splitting the vote.

paysrenttobirds ,

It’s worth voting for who you like in the primary. Sometimes it has an effect even if the nominee isn’t changed. The administration and Democratic party leadership is more than one person.

demesisx , to Politics in Discussion: If I think Biden is too old, and I want to support a different nominee for the Democrats, what should I do?
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That’s a very sweet request but it’s time for you to wake up. The DNC and GOP work together to make sure that you will NEVER escape austerity. They don’t represent you. They represent the oligarchs that strengthened their grip of electoral politics over the past 40 years to the point of completely and totally co-opting all of us. Ever wonder why the Dems never were able to codify Roe v Wade despite having supermajorities for 6 (non consecutive) years? They don’t want to but they want you to think they do.

Hell, the DNC has been hoping for a low turnout this time because it would favor them. As George Carlin famously said before things were even close to this bad, “it’s a big club and you ain’t in it.”

The only semblance of hope is to wrestle control of local governments and hope it somehow trickles up to the federal level. But, IMO, things are hopeless when young fresh faces can get into Congress saying all the right things then they suddenly start being all buddy-buddy with Nancy Pelosi and voting in favor of genocide.

mozz OP ,
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Well aren't you just a breath of fresh air.

Bernie Sanders was an avowed socialist who came within about 10 feet of the Democratic presidential nomination. He'd have won the general, too (assuming he didn't get assassinated which is not guaranteed). We'd have had a socialist as president who spent and still spends all his time railing against wall street and the US's imperialism.

Yes there are a lot of crooked people in the DNC who tried to kill his chances, and ultimately succeeded. That one time.

But the point is he came pretty fuckin' close and your reaction is to yell MOPE MOPE MOPE YOU NEED TO MOPE MORE in my face.

People who fought for real change, civil rights movement Indian independence American labor movement fall of Communism in Eastern Europe, would FUCKIN KILL to have it as easy as progressives in the US do. No, it's not automatic. What do you want, a "make politics better" lever that's right in your living room so you don't have to get off the couch?

Ask Navalny's parents if they'd rather be up against the DNC

You fuckin defeatist

demesisx ,
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You’re adorably naive. Bernie is a democratic socialist. He would be considered a centrist in any Scandinavian country.

He was cheated badly twice. If you can’t even start from that basic accounting of events, I don’t know why I should even engage in a conversation with you.

Vote harder, guys! 🥴

Edit: You even admitted that they’d have assassinated him had he gotten elected!
EXACTLY.

Then you bring Putin into it! 🤣🤣🤣. Can we stay on the subject of the US? Do you think I’m a Putin supporter? 🤣🤣🤣

Stop being naive.

mozz OP ,
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Ghost of Martin Luther King: So let me get this straight. You say the WRONG people? Are in CHARGE?

You: Yeah man. It's a bitch.

Ghost of Martin Luther King: Fuck, man. Just give up. It's the only way. Throw in the towel, and make sure you whine to people on the internet about how it's hopeless. Like, at every opportunity. "You'll never escape" "things are hopeless" and so on. And, make sure you cloak yourself in a self-serving mantle of wisdom, and talk down to people, and act like what you're doing is helping. And just like that... all of a sudden, things will get better.

You: Wow I'll do exactly that


This will be my last message to you. I hope you got what you were looking for from this interaction.

(Edit: I would have thought this was obvious, but my point about Navalny was to add one more to the list of people who have struggled to make things better against odds that were about 5-10 times more insurmountable than anything faced by progressives in the US. That's a situation you could a lot better describe as "hopeless," although in the long run it's not. But it should throw into a lot sharper relief how much less difficult and dangerous it is trying to work for change in the US. Nothing about Putin; the focus was on Navalny.)

demesisx ,
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The douchiest possible reply. Thanks for the great conversation.

mozz OP ,
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morphballganon , to Politics in Discussion: If I think Biden is too old, and I want to support a different nominee for the Democrats, what should I do?

We don’t get to decide who the Dem nominee is when the current President is a Dem who will be running again.

What we can do is urge our representatives to pass legislation enacting ranked-choice or STAR voting, which would cause the parties to put up better candidates as their nominees if they want a chance of winning.

PugJesus , to Politics in Discussion: If I think Biden is too old, and I want to support a different nominee for the Democrats, what should I do?
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Unfortunately, the chance of the nominee being anyone else is pretty slim, short of Biden having a sudden and severe medical issue. You can lodge a vote for one of his challengers in the primary, but it's little more than a protest vote - not that that should discourage you, but looking at it realistically. Most of the theoretical candidates being put forward to replace Biden have the very, very small issue of not actually running in this election, and that's kind of a pre-requisite to win an election.

mozz OP ,
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Yeah. I looked up who Biden's challengers are for the nomination, and the productive impact of voting for either of them, I think, is 0.

Ezra Klein's article (posted interestingly enough by a user I'm fairly well convinced is a total troll/shill) had a big part in convincing me, and he listed plenty of Democratic "talent", but none of them really seemed all that compelling in terms of maybe being president. Maybe Gavin Newsom.

Gretchen Whitmer, Wes Moore, Jared Polis, Gavin Newsom, Raphael Warnock, Josh Shapiro, Cory Booker, Ro Khanna, Pete Buttigieg, Gina Raimondo, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Chris Murphy, Andy Beshear, J.B. Pritzker

Oha , to Sysadmin in Good hosting?
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Hetzner is pretty solid imo

possiblylinux127 , to Sysadmin in Good hosting?
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Linode has similar pricing and is stable for me.

If you are looking for true enterprise hosting go for AWS, GCP or Azure.

knobbysideup , to Sysadmin in Good hosting?
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Linode has been ok for me. I wouldn’t use their managed services. If you need that type of scale go to AWS.

One cool thing I experienced with linode yesterday is I could boot from one of their kernels instead of my own grub kernel. I had a bad update on alma9 and this made recovery much easier without having to rebuild the node.

foggy , to Sysadmin in Good hosting?

Digital ocean sucks, bluehost sucks, GoDaddy sucks.

Two cows was great. Idk these days, no Intel there. Namecheap. Namecheap. Namecheap.

Go to namecheap.

Theyve been solid for like 10 years.

mozz OP ,
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Yeah. For years I was happy with DigitalOcean and had no issues, but this is the interaction I'm currently in the middle of:

  • I can't reach some particular other server; both of us can reach everyone else on the internet, just not each other
  • Contact support sending traceroutes
  • Support asks me to send mtr output (I mean... it's a little more detailed than the traceroute I guess, sure what the hell)
  • I do
  • Support asks if I'm running a VPN on my Linux server
  • Support tells me to disable my VPN
  • Support asks me to provide mtr output from a third place on the internet (which... he could do himself... I consider telling him to do it himself but decide not to). I send the mtr output
  • Silence for 2 days

I mean, it's far from an emergency but it doesn't inspire a ton of confidence. 🙂

foggy ,

Digital ocean changed the IP of a VPS I had like 30 clients on without my go ahead.

Yeah.

possiblylinux127 ,
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Namecheap is kind of obscure and doesn’t have transparent pricing

foggy , (edited )

Idk man namecheap has been doing it for a LONG time. 24 years.

Not clear on Vps probs because they want to know if you’re trying to run a home server, or a web hosting business where you’re going to house 47 clients, or if you’re trying to run a fucking public education system or something.

Name cheap ain’t obscure. Two cows was obscure. They were fucking awesome. But again I have no current Intel on them.

Edit: I don’t know man, I just checked, the pricing seems pretty clear to me

possiblylinux127 ,
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Maybe I’m just out of the loop. The pricing page seems clear but I still don’t trust it. Additionally I don’t care if the server is running on Raid 10 or not.

Shadow , to Sysadmin in Good hosting?
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I’d recommend against ovh. We host lemmy.ca there and that’s been fine so far, but I had a friend whose production server was down for 3 days due to a switch problem.

lemming741 , to Sysadmin in Good hosting?

I just realized this was /c/sysadmin and I’m just using it for homelab stuff so ymmv

lemming741 , to Sysadmin in Good hosting?

I was very happy with Vultr, but they weren’t happy with my Linux isos.

Using linode now, the backup system is more expensive and the emulated terminals don’t seem as nice as I remember vultr but I’m still very happy with it, especially for the price.

mozz OP ,
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Got it, thanks for the recommendation, I poked at both of them a little and it seems like what I'm looking for.

Also, out of curiosity I looked at Vultr's GPU options and said "oh sweet they offer options with tons of GPU RAM if I want" and then looked over and saw it was $3,500-$14,000 a month.

alchemy88 ,
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Also used Vultr for a few years with no real issues!

mozz OP , (edited )
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Okay, I just signed up and from the tiny bit I see I really like Vultr.

Also, for new customers they have discount codes. I went with $250 credit for new customers, and then after I signed up, learned that it only applies to money you spend during your first 30 days.

LOOKS LIKE MACHINE LEARNING'S BACK ON THE MENU BOYS

Edit: Also, this is the kind of thing that tends to inspire confidence:

$ wget https://wordpress.org/latest.zip
--2024-01-31 17:23:44--  https://wordpress.org/latest.zip
Resolving wordpress.org (wordpress.org)... 198.143.164.252
Connecting to wordpress.org (wordpress.org)|198.143.164.252|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 25960271 (25M) [application/zip]
Saving to: ‘latest.zip’

latest.zip          100%[===================>]  24.76M  --.-KB/s    in 0.1s    

2024-01-31 17:23:45 (194 MB/s) - ‘latest.zip’ saved [25960271/25960271]

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