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majestictechie , to Star Trek in Star Trek: Discovery | Season 5 Official Trailer | Paramount+

I felt the only series good season was 1. The last one was terrible, so I think I’ll give 5 a miss.

Strange new Worlds is dope though.

chemical_cutthroat ,
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Two was ok… after that I hated it. Made it through 3 before I completely gave up.

newthrowaway20 ,

Interesting. I hated 1 and liked 2 kinda. Ended up hating the rest as well.

knotthatone ,

I gave it fair chance and watched the first three seasons. There were a few bright spots here and there, but I never connected with the characters or felt like the writing was up to par. I still hope they pull off a good final season, but I’m not planning to watch it any time soon.

Corgana ,
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Funny, season four was the only one I really liked and I am hyped for five.

spyd3r OP , (edited ) to Star Trek in Star Trek on LaserDisc, if you've got the right equipment, it looks amazing! (samples in the description)
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Here is a frame comparison from an LD I captured using a Domesday Duplicator, and a retail DVD

NOTE: (Both are were played back using the same settings in MPC-HC with mad-vr and scaled to my desktop resolution by the player)

LD https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/5632398a-f28a-48c9-8fee-93264decf572.png

DVD https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/d1bfd114-e5d5-402c-98f7-6355e1558d47.png

LD+Ai https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/ed8e5bb0-5ca9-4f18-82e2-651acb11809e.png

RustyNova , to Satisfactory in The Road to 1.0

I’m a bit worried about it. I feel like there’s a lot of things missing to this game, and I don’t think it will get all resolved in one update too.

I also hope that they don’t release at the same time as Factorio’s DLC, as that will trash each others sales

scrubbles OP Mod ,
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What do you think is missing? I was playing online with friends and we had a conversation about how it felt pretty much ready

Aremel ,

Kinda late to the conversation, I know, but I agree with you. To me, all it’s missing obviously is the story and some polish. I could think of a few QOL stuff I’d like to see added before it officially launches, but to me this feels pretty complete as is. Amazing that it’s only in Alpha.

scrubbles OP Mod ,
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That’s how I think it is, I can’t think of any other features I would need. As for actual recipes/items (beyond main quest somersloop and such) I don’t know what else I could need. Each factory is easily 500+ hours to fully run through everything. There are some bugs, but compared to when I started with Update 3 it’s pretty dang stable. The only stability issues I have are on dedicated server, and even then they’re mostly “Just log out and rejoin” and it’s fixed.

Corgana , to Star Trek in Star Trek on LaserDisc, if you've got the right equipment, it looks amazing! (samples in the description)
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Somehow I missed this thread when it was new, wow the LD quality really is excellent.

Thanks for sharing this I love this kinda thing!

teft , to Star Trek in Star Trek on LaserDisc, if you've got the right equipment, it looks amazing! (samples in the description)
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I can’t hear laserdisc without immediately thinking of SLC Punk.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/60179681-2e6b-4af4-8559-54348cf0462f.jpeg

Lucid_Dream , to Star Trek in Star Trek on LaserDisc, if you've got the right equipment, it looks amazing! (samples in the description)
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@spyd3r Are they also better than what you can currently stream? One should hope that Paramount is squeezing out what is possible.

spyd3r OP ,
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Way better than what you can stream (so are the DVDs though), if you watch these discs directly on a retro Trinitron CRT or Plasma TV (I use a Plasma TV) with a good 3d comb filter, they look absolutely perfect, no exaggeration.

But, due to analog signal inputs being afterthought in modern LCD TVs, If you plug the player directly into a modern LCD TV it’s going to look like noisy, muddy, poop, unless you have an expensive video processor ($$$$). Which is why I don’t suggest anyone go down this rabbit hole, except for hardcore retro enthusiasts.

There’s also the problem of the final 2 seasons being missing due to LaserDisc production being stopped.

Asimo , to Star Trek in Star Trek on LaserDisc, if you've got the right equipment, it looks amazing! (samples in the description)

That’s so Impossible cool! Would love to be able to watch these all again but on laserdisc though I think even thinking about is out of my wallets reach.

fox2263 , to Star Trek in Star Trek on LaserDisc, if you've got the right equipment, it looks amazing! (samples in the description)

Honestly amazing.

Why do they look better than they DVDs?

spyd3r OP ,
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LaserDisc stores the video signal in an entirely analog format on the disc, similar to a vinyl record but using lasers. In theory, under good conditions, the input signal is almost entirely reproduceable on playback (minus some degradation in the form of noise and dropouts).

The end viewing result should be something very close to the master tape that was used to make the LD discs, which in this case should be the same tapes used to broadcast the show on TV.

DVD uses the same resolution and video format as LD but digitized, so it’s pretty evenly matched and DVD has better numbers on paper, but where it fails is its use of lossy compression (MPEG2) to fit all that data onto a disc which visibly degrades the image quality quite a bit. This issue is compounded because they chose to jam multiple episodes onto a single 4.7gb disc plus various extras and bullshit resulting in even lower video quality.

If only Paramount would get off it’s ass and make a BluRay release…

fox2263 , (edited )

Thank you for the explanation.

Yes I wish they would remaster DS9 as the documentary proved possible. But Paramount won’t sink any money in to it. I was hoping they would for Paramount+ like what HBO did with some classics for HBO Max. But alas, no

spyd3r OP ,
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A full HD remaster from the film reels would be amazing, but even just re-digitizing the master tapes would give an improvement. That wouldn’t cost more than a team full of interns and some computers.

fox2263 ,

Indeed and equally perplexing considering how hot Star Trek is right now. You’d think they’d want it in high quality for the next 20 years of streaming/digital/tv rights etc

mr_robot2938 , (edited ) to Star Trek in Star Trek on LaserDisc, if you've got the right equipment, it looks amazing! (samples in the description)
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I was so mesmerized by the Voyager intro I got sucked back into the warm nostalgia of my childhood. My eyes instinctively looked to the corner of the screen to read the episode title. And end of video. 😢

If you can get those on the internet you will be preserving access for the vast majority who would otherwise be stuck with the crappy streaming versions.

nightwatch_admin , to Star Trek in Star Trek on LaserDisc, if you've got the right equipment, it looks amazing! (samples in the description)

IIRC, VOY and DS9 were stored for long term on videotape, with the original footage deleted from the disks, while TOS and TNG were still (kept on) reels. Remastering film is a lot easier than upscaling low quality videotape, especially since that is also vulnerable to EM and much more to heat than modern film. I think the Laserdiscs were created from the original footage, so you have some proper gold here. You might be able to create even better upscaling with this than CaptRobau: …blogspot.com/…/how-did-i-upscale-star-trek-ds9-f…

fox2263 ,

I think they were all on reels. The DS9 doc a couple of years back (after than blog post) had 4k hdr widescreen rescans of select scenes for the campaign bonus on kickstarter. Truly amazing. They also had the CGI files to rerender some scenes like Sacrifice of Angels battles.

Z4rK , to Star Trek in Star Trek on LaserDisc, if you've got the right equipment, it looks amazing! (samples in the description)

That’s awesome! How do you use Topaz in this flow?

spyd3r OP ,
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It goes something like this, capture to disk -> decode rf file to video and audio streams with ld-decode -> deinterlace and remove noise with Hybrid/Vapoursynth -> load into Topaz to boost res to 1620x1080 with proteus AI -> final editing, tweaking, and repairs with Premiere -> final encode to HEVC with Hybrid.

Note: For uploading to YT I doubled the resolution again to juice more bitrate out of their encoder. This doesn’t really improve the quality for normal files, so 1080p will probably be the max for regular files. If you try to go beyond that with topaz it starts ‘creating’ things to fill the pixels with and it looks artificial…

Steve , to Star Trek in Star Trek on LaserDisc, if you've got the right equipment, it looks amazing! (samples in the description)

Laserdisk is analog?

JoMomma ,

Yep, like a record, but with freakin lasers!

Steve ,

Fuckin A thats so cool

spyd3r OP ,
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Yes sir, instead of pits and lands being 1’s and 0’s on the disc, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaserDisc#/media/File:LaserdiscModulation.png which allows for an analog RF signal to be stored on the disc.

agent_flounder , to Star Trek in Star Trek on LaserDisc, if you've got the right equipment, it looks amazing! (samples in the description)
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Oh wow that’s a treasure! I kinda miss my laserdiscs.

TheGoldenGod , to Star Trek in Star Trek on LaserDisc, if you've got the right equipment, it looks amazing! (samples in the description)
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Dear God, if these exist, there’s no excuse for the sound quality Paramount+ pushes out. 😢

Fans need these, if you ever do this project, thank you!

spyd3r OP ,
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I might do one full episode as a test, I have another big project I need to finish first before I start another long term project.

Good news is, sound quality on LD is excellent, 2ch 16 bit 44100hz PCM with Dolby Surround.

TheGoldenGod ,
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If you do, you’re doing Q’s work. 🫡 The fans, would kill for this and I just rewatched the shows last month lol.

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  • TheGoldenGod ,
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    You actually might be right, but I also worry Paramount executives wouldn’t care about us enough. 😣

    StillPaisleyCat , to Star Trek in Star Trek on LaserDisc, if you've got the right equipment, it looks amazing! (samples in the description)
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    Wow.

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