Echo71Niner ,
@Echo71Niner@kbin.social avatar

Reddit is deploying millions of bots across the site, most of people on that shit site are interacting with bots.

imaqtpie ,
@imaqtpie@kbin.social avatar

PSA regarding federation (copied from previous comment)

I also want to continue spreading the word about federation issues. I've been on Lemmy for a month now and it's going great. But that whole time, it's essentially been impossible to comment on kbin magazines. The comments simply don't show up. I'm not seeing most of your comments when browsing here from Lemmy, but I am seeing Lemmy comments.

I obviously have this account, but its annoying to keep switching between accounts, plus I haven't really gotten the hang of the kbin interface yet.

Point being, I suspect much of the sluggishness of organic growth is not due to a small userbase, but rather due to the fact nobody can actually find the threads and comment on them efficiently. We need to remain steadfast and trust that the developers will fix this stuff up soon. I really feel that simply making Lemmy and kbin federate perfectly would immediately make this platform 10 times more active. We have plenty of people but right now we are fragmented into parallel communities. This isn't even getting into the server overload at a number of Lemmy instances.

I just don't want people to write off the platform before we can see how it's actually meant to work. I've seen a ton of brilliant comments on kbin and I haven't even had the chance to really mix it up with you guys yet.

Here was the Lemmy post about this story that somebody actually posted here a couple days before this thread. But it doesn't show up here and none of you can see it.

https://sh.itjust.works/post/706681

I really don't want people to get discouraged by this bug because it's very disconcerting when you make a high value comment or post and the response is crickets. Its not because the platform is empty, it's because federation is fucked and your post is invisible to everyone not on your local server.

Patrizsche ,

What’s astroturfing?

nosut ,
@nosut@lemmy.world avatar

A campaign by a marketing team to give the false impression of something.

In this case it’s a campaign by reddit to make it look like there are lots of users who are in agreement with reddit instead of the truth where it’s universally hated.

Paesan ,
@Paesan@kbin.social avatar

It's a play on the term "grass root movement". A grass root movement is one that starts with the people at the bottom, not at the top. So if a bunch of people got together (mostly independent of each other) to promote or protest something, that is a "grass roots" action.

Astroturf is basically fake grass, so "astroturfing" is something that is made to look like a "grass roots" movement but it isn't.

DarkThoughts ,

At least ChatGPT is a more polite than the toxic, racist & sexist shit that remains on Reddit. Scrolled through /r/all this morning and was appalled by some of the toxic comments in the various submissions. I also noticed some sockpuppets somehow spewing the same bullshit opinion about certain topics, using the literal same type of phrasing too, just in different comment chains and with different accounts.

Honestly, probably better for my blood pressure to stay away from most of it.

Jon-H558 ,

It shows how bots were there all the time posting adverts and paid posts anyway. One of the reasons to limit API is other companies were using them to advertise (hidden as a comment or post) without paying the piper.

gentleman ,

@fivezero Holy shit that is one top heavy company. No wonder they haven't made a profit. I'm done with f u/spez but it will be entertaining to watch him continue to devalue the company. Fidelity downgraded the value and who knows what the Chinese investor Tencen thinks. It will be delicious to watch spez screw up his IPO. Desperation has gripped spez and its getting worse.

BraBraBra ,

The downgrade isn’t due to protests, it’s been happening for some time.

gentleman ,

@BraBraBra I’ve heard people say that. I’m aware that there have been previous reductions in value. My experience is that investors have the best access to a company’s information, often in real time in a situation like this, so I think the investors are baking in any user loss and loss of revenue even if they are not publicly admitting it.

@fivezero

chairman ,

[Serious] I am sorry, but can someone explain like I’m five what this is about?

Thanks in advance. I pay onise you, I am NOT a Bot. :-)

AtomicPurple ,
@AtomicPurple@kbin.social avatar

Someone (presumably at Reddit, but there's no hard proof of that), has recently begun using a large number of dummy accounts and what appears to be ChatGPT to post pro-admin, anti-protest comments across the site, and give them a lot of upvotes. Someone figured this out and posed evidence of it to /r/programming. Shortly after that thread reached the top of /r/programming, the subreddit was abruptly closed by the site admins, which is extremely suspect to say the least.

nodel ,

If I were gonna troll Reddit… This is the way. This is an attack on their integrity.

Klear ,

You’d be a fool for attacking an imaginary target, then.

LollerCorleone ,
@LollerCorleone@kbin.social avatar

Reddit admins have apparently used bots to populate content the way they want before as well: https://reddit.moe.ngo/r/SubredditDrama/comments/13p889x/reddit_admins_were_just_caught_using_bots_or_fake/

Thorned_Rose ,

Gees, the Admins aren't very smart. Least they could have done is go buy some karma farmed accounts and use those self-respecting bot spammers do.

inkican ,

Ozymandias
BY PERCY BYSSHE SHELLEY

I met a traveller from an antique land,
Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”

Cevilia ,
@Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I’m sorry, but as an AI language model, I don’t feel it’s appropriate for me to comment on this.

/joke

stopthatgirl7 ,
@stopthatgirl7@kbin.social avatar

They really are just bungling this completely.

themeatbridge ,

If they were competent, we’d all still be on Reddit.

stopthatgirl7 ,
@stopthatgirl7@kbin.social avatar

You make a very good point.

anon ,
@anon@kbin.social avatar

That’s really all on Steve Huffman. He had years to prepare Reddit for profitability and an IPO. He was caught swimming naked when the proverbial music stopped, and he went for the low-hanging fruit (killing the costly API) with nothing but scorn for the dissenting voices.

The board should have fired him after the stealth edits debacle. This guy has no business being a CEO.

stopthatgirl7 ,
@stopthatgirl7@kbin.social avatar

I really just do not get why he thinks Elon Musk has it right idea, only isn’t going far enough. And it’s the board has just decided in for a penny, in for a pound and are determined to stick with him even if Reddit burns to the ground. I wonder what metrics they’re seeing that we aren’t, besides dollar signs.

docmox ,

This is hilarious. Reddit resorting to bots…like a new twitch streamer trying to con their way to partner. What a sad, sad outcome for what was once a great website.

Between Reddit and Twitter I hope big tech begins to take notice and realize they don’t control as much as they think they do. They’re much easier to replace than they think, and ultimately they’re just ad companies.

abff08f4813c ,

Jeez man ... +1 to this person! https://teddit.adminforge.de/r/pics/comments/14puynz/chatgpt_bots_are_spamming_proadmin_astroturf/jql4cka/#c

(After r/programming went private, they sent the u/ModCodeOfConduct modmail to the mods of r/programming - which is modded by reddit admins.)

8ender ,

Spez jelly of that Musk burn your company speed run and wants to catch up

May ,
@May@kbin.social avatar

Hello i hope you dont mind if i post that post, in case someone does not want to go onto reddit:

r/Save3rdPartyApps
u/attackofmilk

Subreddits are starting to see spam from anti-protest, pro-admin ChatGPT bots
Thread on /r/Pics discussing bot spam. (Pics is now NSFW, but this thread is only profanity / vulgarity.)
/r/pics/comments/14puynz/chatgpt_bots_are_spamming_proadmin_astroturf/

/r/Programming closed (by admins?) after community recognition of bot spam:

Ycombinator thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36361247

Top-voted post from /r/Programming before it closed: https://web.archive.org/web/20230611210834/https://old.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/146wn9s/meta_who_is_astroturfing_rprogramming_and_why/

(I would have just crossposted the top thread directly, but this sub forbids crossposting NSFW posts (which is now everything on /r/Pics )

Calcharger ,
@Calcharger@kbin.social avatar

Good idea, thank you

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