Frasier

ptz , in It's lonely around here. How are all my Frasier enthusiasts doing?
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Hope to have some contributions soon. I’m due for a re-watch, and I’m sure I’ll find some gems to share.

Have been watching nothing but narco novelas all winter, lol, so I need a change of pace.

captainjaneway Mod , in Will we get a season 2 of the Frasier reboot?
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As per usual, this reboot lost the soul of the show. I could still laugh at it, but the show runners have no idea what made it successful.

  1. Not enough heartfelt moments. Cheap laughs are what killed the vibe for me. Frasier has some episodes that pull at my heart strings emotionally. You gotta have good drama to have good comedy, in my opinion.
  2. Frasier is dressed so weird. He looks like he’s trying to dress down? That’s not his style. He’d be dressed to the nine as usual. In Harvard, that shouldn’t be too unusual.
  3. Jokes were paid off too quickly. Frasier would often give a joke quite a while before it was paid off.
  4. Characters were simply unrealistic. Niles was goofy at times, but he had self-respect and all the arrogance of Frasier. But Niles’ son acts ten years younger than he actually is. I just didn’t believe most characters.
  5. Set design was not great. Frasier’s home having the Rorschach wallpaper? That feels like a joke. It doesn’t seem authentic. Again, Frasier is not a “modern” man. If anything, his home should look much more like a cigar lounge than a '“contemporary” home with shrink elements. I was also disappointed by how often the set was statically shot. They did not utilize many angles. I liked the bar well enough.

Overall, I thought the show had merit on its own. But it was a poor sequel for Frasier. It was funny at times. Some moments the show did come through. The final episode was actually pretty damn close to the original thing. I loved some of the bits with the trees, the goose, Roz, and how his son surprised him. I just felt like they missed the mark on too many other episodes.

I also wish more studios would stop lighting everything so heavily. A bit of nuance in your shots isn’t such a bad thing. Every shot looks like plastic to me. It’s sort of a modern film approach. Maybe I’m a rusty bucket, but it feels uninspired to me.

jqubed , in Will we get a season 2 of the Frasier reboot?
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Just finished watching the first season last night. It wasn’t as good as the original but that’s also a high bar to clear. It had its moments, and I’d say it’s above average compared to your average new sitcom in a first season. There were a lot of points where I thought they were going for some dumb classic sitcom trope/cliche but they’d surprise me and go a little deeper. I’d like to see them get a second season to see if they can really find their footing and go somewhere with this. They would really need to step it up in season 2 to justify additional seasons, though.

Squizzy , in Will we get a season 2 of the Frasier reboot?

I hope so, it wasn’t all that bad. You throw away most of the cast except Rodney and I’d be happy though.

The roommate is gorgeous but meh, Freddie is a little bit the same and boring. David sucks. And the college woman is a pain.

I still enjoyed the show, hope it tightens up.

stom , in Will we get a season 2 of the Frasier reboot?
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Made it half way and felt like someone had just thrown Frasier into Big Bang Theory, and hired some kids fresh out of acting school.

The original was very cheesy but right for the time and well executed, but this reboot was just awkward and uncomfortable. Felt like KG was just helping out a family member with some college coursework and somehow it got aired.

Let it go, don’t ruin it further.

littlebluespark , in Christmas can be hard for some people. I hope those of you without your car keys, a good jacket, or a warm meal can find all of that in spades this season.
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Kelsey Grammer’s a flaming asshole and a fascist. What does that make his fans?

captainjaneway OP Mod ,
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Art can be separated from the artist. It has been known to happen, believe it or not.

mkhoury ,
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I’m a fan of Frasier as a show, I’m not a fan of Kelsey Grammer as a person. He’s just a meat puppet asked to say lines, he is not equivalent to the show.

reversebananimals , in Christmas can be hard for some people. I hope those of you without your car keys, a good jacket, or a warm meal can find all of that in spades this season.

“How much more appetizing food becomes when you add the word ‘log’!”

JustAManOnAToilet , in I can't think of some good text for this meme, but the format seemed ripe for the picking. Maybe someone far more clever can make use of it

He would walk into a bar, snap his fingers, and half the patrons would disappear so he could have their drinks.

hoodlem , in Predictions for episode 10?

I think Roz will be there, with Alice. Romance ignites between Freddy and Alice. Freddy says something like “You’re, you’re Alice?” as a throwback to Niles meeting Daphne.

Donjuanme , in Predictions for episode 10?

I’ve not watched this new iteration, has it been worth it?

Does anyone know if “we’re listening, a Frasier podcast” is doing the re-creation?

Bryony87 OP Mod ,

I’ve enjoyed it. It’s certainly not the original but Kelcey Grammer is still wonderful in his character and the writers have started to explore the relationship between him and Freddy’s character more.

KingJalopy ,

If you’re a true fan of Frasier it is totally worth it. I have had such a fantastic time revisiting this character. The season finale brought tears to my eyes honestly. But I have very sentimental reasons for being invested in this series. I thought it was fantastic and if you’re going into it expecting old Frasier you’re going to be let down but if you go into it expecting the next chapter of his life you will be delightfully surprised with all the humorous callbacks.

ptz , in Predictions for episode 10?
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Shot in the dark: Agree on Roz (I’ve read Gilpin is supposed to be in the revival). Maybe we’ll see college-age Alice along with her?

Bryony87 OP Mod ,

I’m wondering in what context Roz will appear. Why is she in Boston?

g1bber1sh , in Meaningful Character Names

I think David was named in the original series after David Angell, who perished in the 9/11 attack along with his wife.

ptz OP ,
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Possibly, yeah. They did honor Angell in a closing title card during the original airing. I guess it could be both. :shrug:

KingJalopy ,

Well they had named the kid David before the original series even ended if I’m not mistaken.

ptz OP ,
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All I remember is Roz picking the name Ichabod on the form when they were pre-registering him for the boujie school before he was born. lol.

JustAManOnAToilet ,

And Niles worrying about the dreaded glottal stop if they named him Jack Crane.

018118055 , in I can't think of some good text for this meme, but the format seemed ripe for the picking. Maybe someone far more clever can make use of it

“Rodney you plonker”

satanmat , in Meaningful Character Names

Is it worth watching?

Honestly not heard anything about it…

ptz OP ,
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I’m enjoying it.

satanmat ,

Cool. I’ll check it out

captainjaneway Mod ,
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It’s not as good as the original Frasier, in my opinion. But it is entertaining. What the reboot needed was a willingness to dive into complex emotions. The first episode of the original series deals with anger and sadness. Frasier and his father end up fighting and they end the scene with a dramatic fade to black. The new series doesn’t take risks like that. It follows most modern sitcom conventions: too afraid to allow some drama to contrast the humor.

But it’s still very good. And they do have some dramatic moments as people navigate their relationships. But they just pull back the punch a little too easily in most cases.

The_Worst OP , in Frasier Revival | S01E05 "The Founders' Society"

Quite an amusing episode. Episode 4 was okay and I like this last episode a lot more. Seems like the actors and the writers are getting acquainted with the roles. I’m curious where it is going to lead. Only David is not my cup of tea.

Bryony87 Mod ,

I’m with you about David. I don’t love him either. It’s like he’s trying to be Niles but can’t pull it off. And I can’t figure out his purpose in the show.

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