tobozo , (edited )
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omg KDE @kde if it ain't broken, fix it until it is?

TimeWalker ,

Another case of abusing the word "enshitification"

isVeryLoud ,
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Everything I don't like is enshittification

A novel by Tobozo

Bro666 Mod ,
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If you think you have found a bug, please report it at https://bugs.kde.org. This is will help get it solved as opposed to every other course of action.

tobozo OP ,
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Bro666 Mod ,
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Great! My advice is you politely comment on it with your own experience or your insight into what the correct behaviour should be. This will not only give devs a measure of the importance of this bug, but will also keep you in the loop of the process of its resolution.

tobozo OP ,
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@Bro666

thanks for the good advice, looks like most important feedback has already been given so I'll pass

also the account creation disclaimer is scary

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  • Bro666 Mod , (edited )
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    The risk is low. Your email address is not visible by the general public. A spammer would have to go through a manual registration process to see it. Sounds like a lot of work for a small niche number of email addresses.

    Either way, when in doubt, do as suggested: use your spam-catching email address.

    tobozo OP ,
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    @Bro666

    spammers aren't the only bad actors 😉

    I really hope KDE will come to their senses and allow more login options

    Gnome gitlab login page with Open Auth options visible: Google/Github/Keycloak/Gitlab

    Treczoks ,

    What did you do to get this "Input Error"?

    tobozo OP ,
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    @Treczoks

    2 * 2 [enter]

    • 2 [enter]
    Treczoks ,

    If that breaks a calculator, then it is indeed crap. Holy Moly.

    Edit: I just tried this, works fine on KCalk 23.08.5

    tobozo OP ,
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    @Treczoks

    my version is kcalc 24.05.0

    eager_eagle ,
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    I can confirm this breaks on v24.05.0

    probably a bug

    I'm a bit surprised something like this wasn't caught by tests

    aBundleOfFerrets ,

    Try Qalculate, it is extremely powerful and better that anything else imo

    Xirup ,
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    To be honest, I tried really hard to give it a tried to Kcalc but I give up. Check out Kalk (no, no it's the same), it's a KDE Calculator and it's preatty neat IMO.

    tobozo OP ,
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    @Xirup thanks! it looks perfect for keyboard interactions and the undo feature is super neat 👍

    I'll still keep Kcalc for the binary edition though

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    mox , (edited )

    I don't know what this image is supposed to tell us, but I can confirm that KCalc behaves badly in some common situations. (At least, it does in Plasma 5.) Want to see an example?

    Put it in Simple Mode, and try copying and pasting various multi-digit numbers with leading zeroes. Some of them work fine. Others, like 054 and 009, yield surprising results.

    Spoiler:

    054 becomes 44
    009 becomes nan

    A programmer or mathematician might be able to deduce that KCalc is trying to interpret those numbers as octal (base 8 instead of base 10), if they're paying close attention. That doesn't help anyone who is just trying to total a bunch of numbers from a document, using their default desktop calculator, and doesn't notice a misinterpreted value along the way. Their total will just be wrong, or in the case of nan, they will just be frustrated that the calculator doesn't work.

    This behavior is probably not appropriate for Simple Mode.

    It does the same thing even in Numerical System Mode with decimal (base 10) explicitly selected, which is absolutely not appropriate.

    tobozo OP ,
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    @mox wow that's even worse than losing continuity for the sakes of that new history feature (using Kcalc version 24.05.0)

    here's what I did before getting the input error:

    2*2 [enter]

    *2 [enter]

    I was expecting to read "8" but got "input error" instead

    mox , (edited )

    I followed your steps and got 8 in KCalc 22.12.3.

    Perhaps you found a bug in your version? You can search for existing bug reports, or create new ones, here: https://bugs.kde.org/

    tobozo OP ,
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    tobozo OP ,
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    @kde solved by running "sudo downgrade kcalc" and selecting the latest 22.x version and adding kcalc to IgnorePkg

    yes it's brutal, but breaking a11y support is worse

    tobozo OP ,
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    @kde what's this new input line for? does it solve a problem? how can I get rid of it?

    tobozo OP ,
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  • isVeryLoud ,
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    That's a bit reductive, don't you think? Bugs happen.

    Go fix it yourself if you feel so strongly about it, show your software development prowess.

    tobozo OP ,
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    @isVeryLoud

    you're right it's reductive, I'll delete that last message

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