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JohnDClay ,

I think it’s fine to outsource some things overseas, but don’t criminally underpay them!

sugar_in_your_tea ,

$5/hr is a decent wage in the Philippines. Minimum wage there is ~$11/day, so $5/hr is quite a bit more than minimum wage.

Verat ,

Minimum wage may not be the whole story, our minimum wage is $7.25 still and I dont think anyone believes that can be lived on here. The cost of living is more significant a measure of the pay’s fairness

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Cost of living is also much lower in The Philippines vs the US. A quick search says a 1br studio near Manila costs ~₱6,500/month, which is ~$115/month. The same thing costs about 10-20x that here in the US in a city.

So $5/hr would be enough for a pretty nice lifestyle there, whereas it would be significantly below the poverty line here in the US.

youRFate ,

Right, he is paying about 4x minimum wage, which would be about $29/hr, that’s doable.

doingthestuff ,

I think your math is off.

Mossheart ,

Apparently the US government does, otherwise they’d have changed it…

shalafi ,

Funny note on that: Went to stay with a friend in Manhattan back in '91. Stunned by the prices I asked, “How does anyone survive on minimum wage?!”

He laughed, “Man, nobody gets minimum wage here!”

I’m in a poor county in Florida. 6 years ago, jobs could be found at the very bottom, no more.

Slotos ,

Their labor creates expensive value in an expensive market. Share accordingly.

“It’s a great pay where they are” argument is bullshit.

BrotherL0v3 ,

Exactly this. If they are making the same product as a local team that generates the same revenue, you’re just taking a bigger slice of their surplus value. In other words, exploiting them harder.

MissJinx ,
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It doesn’t. Since the dolar has usually a higher value americans pay little but when you convert the people there make ok money. It’s a win x win x lose (in this case the american people that need jobs too :/)

PeriodicallyPedantic ,

I think that companies shouldn’t be allowed to change wage/salary based on locale.

But I have no idea how that could be enforced.

Jarix ,

Taxes

PeriodicallyPedantic ,

And how do you enforce the taxes?

The problem i was alluding to was shell companies, subsidiaries, and all the existing popular tax avoiding strategies used by big companies (that’d also be used for avoiding counting those employees)

Jarix ,

More taxes?(im gonna keep saying more taxes everytime you reply, please keep replying)

PeriodicallyPedantic ,

For the record, I agree with more taxes. I’m ok with you replying more taxes.

But we need new laws in addition to new taxes, that prevent companies from splitting up their companies (money/employees) into distinct legal entities based on geographical location. Good luck with that, though.

Jarix ,

More taxes

PeriodicallyPedantic ,

More taxes

SanndyTheManndy ,

Wish granted. Tech job compensation falls to record low as it equalizes with latin america and south asia.

PeriodicallyPedantic ,

LOL you think they wouldn’t have already done that if they could? Explain to me how you think that’d be the result of making offshore labour more expensive 🤣🤣🤣

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