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staticlifetime , in SUSE Preserves Choice in Enterprise Linux by Forking RHEL with a $10+ Million Investment
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I'm really not sure what problem this is supposed to solve. Anyone can fork the current source. People don't care about forks, they want RHEL.

shadowbert , in This week in KDE: Plasma 6 development continues
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Do you know if they're going to fix the "bug" where applications don't realise you're running a dark theme?

KotoWhiskas ,

I haven't experienced this bug for like half a year

shadowbert ,
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Interesting. What version are you running?

KotoWhiskas ,

5.27.6

shadowbert ,
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Same. That's surprising. Was there an extra setting you changed (instead of just selecting a dark theme in the plasma settings)?

KotoWhiskas ,

No all default, maybe it's just dumb chrome which doesn't detect themes on Linux, try firefox

shadowbert ,
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Entirely plausible... though I note that pacman has gone light in the recent manjaro update :(

NateSwift , in A distro and desktop environment recommendation for an old laptop (Read all of it, please.)

I would try and avoid GNOME and KDE desktop environments. Also would recommend avoiding Zorrin. It was one of the first distros I used and it wasn’t very stable and software compatibility was rubbish.

Mint is really good out of box, and if Cinnamon is too heavy they have an iso that ships with xfce which is a lot lighter (and uglier imo)

Colombo ,

XFCE (and uglier imo)

BOOOOO XFCE can be as beautiful as you want it to be. Also, it is very functional.

TCB13 , in After 30 Years, Linux Finally Hits 3% Market Share
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openKylin (China’s 1st Independent Open-Source Linux OS) will speed things up a lot. news.itsfoss.com/openkylin-linux-os/

Limitless_screaming , in A distro and desktop environment recommendation for an old laptop (Read all of it, please.)
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If you really need a DE then XFCE is your best choice, otherwise try out IceWM; it's the WM used by Antix Linux, so you know it's gonna be light.

Both XFCE and IceWM are know for customization, and both of them aren't the prettiest out of the box.

Sucuk OP ,
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Forgive my beginner's-knowledgement but what is a WM?

smallaubergine ,
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Ah, thanks for the info!

Limitless_screaming ,
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WM means Window Manager, it mostly just manages window positions, tiling, decoration, and other Window related things. WMs usually need more configuration than DEs (Desktop Environments), some don't have default panels, widgets, etc. So you have to configure those yourself.

That allows them to be more customizable and lighter, but makes them a little harder to configure.

ISometimesAdmin , in After 30 Years, Linux Finally Hits 3% Market Share
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Right on the road to 100%!

Beastie , in A distro and desktop environment recommendation for an old laptop (Read all of it, please.)
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I agree 110% with everyone that is mentioning your DE is going to be an important choice. I run Tumbleweed, and moved from KDE (which I love for its customization and effects) to Enlightment, and I've seen the load (measure of how busy my system is) go from an average of 8 or 9, down to 2 or 3. Any distribution can be configured to be using minimal resources if you spend the time, if you want minimal out of the box, there are many that have that option too, but your DE is going to affect your performance a lot more than any minimally setup OS. That being said, Chrome and having lots of tabs open is going to kill your memory usage...

MediaActivist , in After 30 Years, Linux Finally Hits 3% Market Share
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The year of the Linux desktop! (Sorry…)

PabloDiscobar , in Keep Linux Open and Free—We Can’t Afford Not To
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Oracle is this priest who will try to convert you to christianity when you are in a hospital on your deathbed.

Oracle has been part of the Linux community for 25 years. Our goal has remained the same over all those years: help make Linux the best server operating system for everyone, freely available to all, with high-quality, low-cost support provided to those who need it.

Fuck you

We want to emphasize to Linux developers, Linux customers, and Linux distributors that Oracle is committed to Linux freedom. Oracle makes the following promise: as long as Oracle distributes Linux, Oracle will make the binaries and source code for that distribution publicly and freely available. Furthermore, Oracle welcomes downstream distributions of every kind, community and commercial. We are happy to work with distributors to ease that process, work together on the content of Oracle Linux, and ensure Oracle software products are certified on your distribution.

Oracle is one of the biggest personal data broker out there. Fuck you

By the way, if you are a Linux developer who disagrees with IBM’s actions and you believe in Linux freedom the way we do, we are hiring.

The russian army is hiring too.

Finally, to IBM, here’s a big idea for you. You say that you don’t want to pay all those RHEL developers? Here’s how you can save money: just pull from us. Become a downstream distributor of Oracle Linux. We will happily take on the burden.

Devour each others please. Thank you and fuck you.

ryannathans OP ,

do you have a source on Oracle being one of the biggest personal data brokers?

PabloDiscobar , (edited )
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Xandr

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edit: to whomever is interested in privacy, the downvote is from a troll, mass downvoter called @DarkThoughts. The link is good and the source as well.

christos , in A distro and desktop environment recommendation for an old laptop (Read all of it, please.)
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Linuxmint with xfce. Light, stable, perfect.

Peruvian_Skies , (edited ) in A distro and desktop environment recommendation for an old laptop (Read all of it, please.)
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For a desktop environment, I suggest xfce or lxde. They're very lightweight. As for the distro, all the ones you mentioned are Ubuntu-based. Even though there are some lightweight Ubuntu-based distros, like Zorin and Bodhi, you can do better. I'd suggest going for something lighter, such as the Arch-based EndeavourOS (xcfe is the default DE so it's very well-supported).

Now, if you want something even more lightweight that's still Debian-based like Ubuntu, Mint et al., take a look at BunsenLabs Linux. It's blazing fast, extremely light and very user-friendly. It doesn't use a traditional desktop environment. Instead, it uses the Openbox window manager, which requires much less resources - especially RAM, which seems like it'll be the bottleneck on your laptop.

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SFaulken , in A distro and desktop environment recommendation for an old laptop (Read all of it, please.)
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I'd probably drop openSUSE Tumbleweed with LXQt on it. But that's my preference for low-spec machines. There's any number of distros with "lightweight" GUI's that you can use. XFCE/MATE/LXQt probably being the ones that will give you the least headaches.

epocsquadron , in A distro and desktop environment recommendation for an old laptop (Read all of it, please.)
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Linux can definitely make that thing fly, although the biggest limitation will be RAM - not from the desktop environment you choose, but from the web, depending on how many and what kinds of websites you rely on (for example I regularly use 20-30GB of my 64 through figma, pitch, Google docs, notion, ClickUp, and sites I develop that tend to be video and image heavy). Were I you, I would prioritize the 8Gb ram upgrade.

Aside from that, which distro you choose won’t make a huge difference. Some claim desktop environments like gnome and kde plasma are too heavy (I assume they mean in graphics processing and ram usage) and will insist on something like xfce or sway. Those are invariably very fiddly to set up, so if you’re a beginner, I would recommend sticking with gnome or kde despite. These will be the default on the distros you mentioned. Mint MATE edition would be your best bet for a classic desktop environment that might tick the “lighter” check mark if you really must.

CheshireSnake , in A distro and desktop environment recommendation for an old laptop (Read all of it, please.)
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I’d go with a “light” DE for now, or a WM if possible (although it’s very different from windows). Your laptop isn’t bad - it’s actually better than mine (i3 with no discrete gpu), but i added 8gb ram (now it’s 12gb total) and it was a game-changer.

Imo, Mint or Debian is okay if you don’t want to stray far from Windows but your choice of DE is pretty limited with a small amount of ram. Maybe use xfce?

Also check out antix, puppy linux, or lubuntu. Those might be better choices while you haven’t upgraded your memory. Idk much about dual boot since I use Linux alone on my laptop or vm on my desktop.

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