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iiGxC ,

It was really good, many great points, many funny moments, solid work.

one point I liked was the point that many fantasies from women involve being strongly desired, and that incels are, in part, very frustrated that they’ve never felt desireable at all.

gapbetweenus OP ,

The observation that incels crave to be desired, made me empathize more with them - great observation.

Schadrach ,

The observation that incels crave to be desired, made me empathize more with them - great observation.

Couple that with the expectation that you will be the one initiating every encounter and escalation.

Like, women have fantasies of being strongly desired, but imagine you’ve never felt desired in your entire life and you also are expected to always be the one to make the first move, to have to take positive action to even move from socially invisible to desired or rejected (and most often the latter).

gapbetweenus OP ,

Sadly they don’t see, how they enforce structures that are source of their own suffering.

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