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CookieJarObserver ,
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No its because it tastes good.

Tsinc ,

Sauces, marinades, vegtable broth and spices taste good.

CookieJarObserver ,
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Yeah Shure but why limit yourself from stuff that tastes good?

Just limit consumption to reasonable levels, its also a healt thing, but i don’t see the need to never eat fish and meat anymore, once a week is ok.

HidingCat ,

Yea, one thing I feel is that vegans really are letting perfect be the enemy of good. While I do empathise and am eating less meat myself, I feel like screeching on people being omnis is missing the forest for the trees; if most people did like what you mentioned, eating meat once a week, that's 6/7th less animals slaughtered. Along with the reductions in emissions and whatever environmental impact too, of rearing so many animals for their meat.

Rocket ,

When I, a man, am eating by myself I include meat sparingly, but when I eat food prepared by the women in my life, meat is front and centre and hard to avoid. I guess that is the threat to masculinity? The “why won’t he eat this perfectly good meal I made for him?”

CookieJarObserver ,
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Hm… I mean you can talk to your GF about that, she will probably understand

Rocket ,

What is there to talk about? There is nothing wrong with the meals.

CookieJarObserver ,
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Ask her if she can make some more planty meals because you want to take care of your health, thats usually seen favorable

Rocket ,

You want me to lie? I’m not necessarily looking for “planty meals”. I gravitate in that direction when I cook because that’s the kind of food I can make taste good, but that is not necessarily someone else’s skillset. There is nothing wrong with the meat dishes put in front of me. They taste good too.

CookieJarObserver ,
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Ah i thought you wanted to eat less meat, if not then there obviously isn’t a problem.

You wouldn’t have been lying if you wanted that.

ininewcrow ,
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Look up the history and origin of making gravy and sauces … modern gravies and sauces were started and developed in the Middle Ages for beef and meat dishes to mask the taste of rotten or semi rotten food.

Yes I know there are other sauces and gravies for vegetables … but the little dish of gravy for your roast beef supper was started because someone just wanted their food to taste less like a rotting carcass because they had no refrigeration back then.

elouboub ,
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And now they make a nice blend that wouldn't taste the same without meat.

ininewcrow ,
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Agreed … every time I make steak, or chicken, or turkey, or pork, I always carefully collect the drippings, make a roux and mix my own gravy. I’ve done the same with goose, moose and caribou.

Takes lots of practice but now everyone raves about my gravy … no homo tho.

No1RivenFucker ,

And I didn’t plan on stopping eating those either

elouboub ,
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These studies are made through a lens of "men have frail egos, how else can we frame this viewpoint".

I don't give a fuck about "masculinity" or "femininity". If it's cheap, tastes good, and isn't full of EEEEEEs, I'll buy it. Standard "aubergine", tomatoes, spring onions and whatever aren't tasty without a whole lot of prep. Fuck salads. Give me that cheap, spicy, Indian sauce that I can lather onto sweet potato purree, carrot pasta, and pickled mango... and it costs less than a dish with a fucking steak? Hell yeah I'm buying it! Steak will be what I eat when I go out.

Make another study focusing on pricing and how much money you can save per year eating veggie and I bet my ass it'll have an impact. These stupid "my gender is better than your gender" bullshit doesn't help.

CookieJarObserver ,
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They aren’t peer reviewed and basically dont count as studies in a science way.

No1RivenFucker ,

Most modern social “science” papers are just “people I agree with are actually just superior people, and everyone I disagree with is stupid and dumb”, with the most blatant statistics fuckery on earth

Psythik ,

Also because it’s still the only way to get enough protein unless you want to drink a bunch of shakes every day. Anyone who has counted calories before can tell you that most men are deficient unless they’re heavy meat eaters.

BCsven ,

As a vegetarian for 30 uears and now Vegan for probably 2-3 years, i can attest that your protien statement is false. i have never done protien shakes as a diet supplement. The lentils I buy are 30% protien. Other Beans are good also.

Psythik ,

Yeah but then you have to eat beans, and I can’t stand beans.

BCsven ,

Lol. plain beans can be boring. But cooked into varoius Indian, ethiopian or african dishes with spices they are delicious

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