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swiffswaffplop ,

I feel like you should’ve told him that it was specifically due to the return to office policy. That way they could understand the effects of that decision.

m0darn ,

Yeah OP did a large disservice to his colleagues by not explaining.

Deftdrummer ,

Contrary to popular belief - most companies do not ask for a exit interview and ultimately, don’t give a fuck why you’re leaving.

It gets mentioned often, because there are a lot of feelings involved - but your boss doesn’t really care.

m0darn ,

Contrary to popular belief - most companies do not ask for a exit interview

But in this case they did

and ultimately, don’t give a fuck why you’re leaving.

Companies care about profits. If employee retention challenges are hurting profits they will try to address those issues in the cheapest way possible. There’s a good chance that letting employees work remotely is the cheapest way to improve retention.

Blaze OP ,
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I answered in another comment above, long story short, they didn’t really ask me, it was not worth it to provide feedback if they weren’t going to take it into account

Deftdrummer ,

Every employee thinks they’re gonna be the one to stick it to the man and affect profit motives on their way out. Reality? everyone is replaceable. They do not give a fuck about you or your opinion. Your comments will likely go into the bin or a suggestions pool at best. Corporations do they want and it’s almost always the wrong path.

m0darn ,

Every employee thinks they’re gonna be the one to stick it to the man and affect profit motives on their way out.

No. I think generally people are pretty aware of how hard it is to change the system.

everyone is replaceable.

Correct, but there are replacement costs.

They do not give a fuck about you or your opinion.

Correct, but they do care about how their policies affect their costs.

Your comments will likely go into the bin or a suggestions pool at best.

It’s just about giving your immediate boss data so that when big boss says:

“why is there so much turnover in your department? The recruitment costs are way out of line, and your retraining is killing your productivity”

Instead of immediate boss saying:

“this generation has no loyalty to their employer” (lol)

They can say:

“employees are leaving for jobs that allow work from home, we should ask HR if they think an adjustment to our policy would make recruitment and retention easier. This generation acts so entitled but I think this may be a way to reduce turnover without increasing payroll costs”

Or whatever.

Corporations do what they want and it’s almost always the wrong path.

They always try to maximize profits for the top, it’s rare that that lines up with the interests of the bottom.

Blaze OP ,
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I answered in another comment above, long story short, they didn’t really ask me, it was not worth it to provide feedback if they weren’t going to take it into account

Blaze OP , (edited )
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Alright, so here’s the catch: I was working for one entity of a group. I was reporting to the entity director, but the whole group was still owned (something like 55%) by a single person, with an egocentric personality, and that owner was vehemently against working from home.

I mentioned to the entity director that there was nothing he could change as the working from office policy was pushed by the group (he had mentioned that earlier to a lot of people, that we were not following “the group policy”). I did not have an HR exit interview where to report my issue with the WFH policy directly.

Just to give an example at how stubborn the owner was: it was okay for me to work in one office while every other person I was working with would be in a different one, but I wasn’t allowed to work from home. I would thus go every day from my hometown to that office, interact with no one, make a few calls with my team in the other office, and go back home.

To even add more context, one of my former reports who took my role left a few months afterwards as well, in his case the issue was the pay they were offering.

Long story short, this company was full of issues, and didn’t seem to bother to even ask for feedback. A lot of other people quit around the time I did.

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