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BraveSirZaphod , in Activists sue Harvard over legacy admissions after affirmative action ruling
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I don't really see the constituonal basis here. Racial discrimination is explicitly prohibited by the Constitution, so there's an obvious angle for calling affirmative action unconditional. That doesn't really exist with legacy admissions.

It's still stupid and shouldn't be a thing, but it's not the job of the Courts to ensure an optimal college admissions system. Saying that it's de facto racial discrimination is a pretty big stretch.

admiralteal , (edited )

The argument is that legacy admissions are a criterion being used in lieu of race to achieve racial discrimination. Similar systems were an aggressive part of the Jim Crowe South to prevent blacks from voting when they couldn't make skin color-specific rules anymore, where you would have to prove literacy or your grandfather's ability to vote to get a vote in since they knew that no black person could pass those tests.

It's not the strongest case, but it isn't unreasonable and it has a rational basis. I'm skeptical that even a disinterested court would accept the logic on its face and know that the current court will just wallow in its hypocrisy, but I at least understand the principle.

The defense to it is that these elite universities actively desire diversity, so clearly they are not using legacy admits as a proxy for racial discrimination. There's plenty of evidence that there is a different, corrupt-but-legal purpose for these legacy systems that is not racially motivated.

edit: On the flip-side, if indirectly discriminatory policies like these ARE allowed, it gives the universities a clear path forward to continuations of their AA policies. They just need to replace the race of their applicants with proxies for race that are allowed. Theoretically, this logic could force a standoff -- either policies that indirectly have discriminatory outcomes (defined by who?) are illegal or they aren't. Or else you'd have to somehow prove intention to discriminate before you could find a policy illegal, which is another very complex can of worms that the elite universities could probably get around.

And so, like with everything around this case, it likely won't change any real behavior from the elite universities but will seriously fuck with less affluent ones.

Xariphon , in The Supreme Court Doesn’t Care That the Gay Wedding Website Case Is Based on Fiction

Anything that supports their bigotry, doesn't need to be true.

"I'm not interested in reality" really sums up their entire position at this point.

dd97843 ,
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Much like the MAGA twits, I mean individuals.

May , in Activists sue Harvard over legacy admissions after affirmative action ruling
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the practice of giving admissions priority to the children of alumni

I didnt know this was even a thing that was allowed? That seems unfair, it's like nepotism isnt it? I hope this doesn't happen where I live :/

snooggums ,
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It is similar to nepotism and is extremely common, if not universal, in private higher education in the US which is the context for this lawsuit.

I doubt it is limited to the US since we tend to copy practices from other countries that help the wealthy stay in power.

Hairyblue , (edited ) in AOC urges Congress to consider 'subpoenas' if Chief Justice Roberts won't testify about SCOTUS gift scandal
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They think they have life appointments of power and no accountability. Congress should subpoena them.

And Biden should pack the court.

I hope the young people vote out the Republicans before they make a Christian Nation out of America.

Flaky_Fish69 ,
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If Biden packs the court, the pubies will do the same, but worse, at their first opportunity. I have no good solutions, but impeach the shitheads seems like a good thing to do.

Yes, the SCROTUS is destroying democracy, but packing the court will only create more fights.

AlwaysNowNeverNotMe ,
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It's much more difficult to pack the court with federalist society wonks than competent lawyers.

root_beer ,
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The GOP has already packed the courts, and Trump has already said he’ll nominate more SCOTUS judges if he’s elected. The fight is already here, but it’s entirely one-sided.

Flaky_Fish69 ,
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"packing the court" specifically refers to adding more justices because you don't like the current ones. the last time that the court's number of judges changed was in 1869, when it went up from eight to nine.

So, I think it's fairly safe to say, no, the republicans have not yet packed the court. McConnell, however, has definitely played some hypocritical bullshit during Obama's term, blocking nominations from being confirmed specifically to allow a republican nomination, and that probably needs to be fixed as well as adding more direct oversight and ethics rules. (and I mean rules- not "guidelines")

czech ,
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They will already do everything they can get away with, without worrying about the other side is doing. If the courts can be packed then they will pack them regardless of what dems do.

acronymesis OP , in The Supreme Court Doesn’t Care That the Gay Wedding Website Case Is Based on Fiction
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Prima Farcie

Ha!

kuontom OP , in Florida Becomes Latest State To Allow Permit-less Gun Carry
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Ron frequently making headlines these days, almost as frequently as mass shootings in the country. Almost

Books , in Activists sue Harvard over legacy admissions after affirmative action ruling
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This is absolutely hilarious.

Is there discovery process here? I gotta imagine there are some damaging emails about legacy students.

lowdownfool , in Activists sue Harvard over legacy admissions after affirmative action ruling
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Republicans wining about "woke anti-legacy agenda" admissions in 3, 2, 1...

Froyn , in Activists sue Harvard over legacy admissions after affirmative action ruling

Is this that slippery slope we're always talking about? Let a fake case get ruled on so others can pile on with real cases using that as precedent?

Madison_rogue ,
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It baffles me how a fake case can even have any legitimacy with the court. Yet here we are...SCOTUS is even more a joke now. It's just so tragic their bad faith & buffoonery affects so many people .

Froyn ,

I wonder if the "plaintiff" can sue the lawyers who brought the case for some kind of False Representation.

Hairyblue , in Activists sue Harvard over legacy admissions after affirmative action ruling
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Legacy adminissions is just basicly The Good Old Boy network

snooggums ,
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Same concept as being 'grandfathered in' based on their grandfather being eligible to vote from the Jim Crow Era.

xc2215x , in Ron DeSantis’ pastor says gay people should be “put to death”

So messed up.

binaryphile , in Ron DeSantis’ pastor says gay people should be “put to death”

Fuck this guy.

I_Miss_Daniel ,
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Would that render him gay? (He might be already, but can't cope with it.)

Flaky_Fish69 , in AOC urges Congress to consider 'subpoenas' if Chief Justice Roberts won't testify about SCOTUS gift scandal
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“look, guys, you need to shut up about our corruption already, it’s undermining public trust!”-roberts probably

CoWizard , in New, Conservative Push To Weaken Child Labor Protections Is Gaining Steam

So if these kids can work, they can vote, right?

CoCoIchibanCurry ,
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Another core Republican policy is increasing the minimum voting age to 25.

TubeTalkerX ,

Something about Taxation without Representation…

xuxebiko , in Activists sue Harvard over legacy admissions after affirmative action ruling

Good.

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