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Chariotwheel , in Donald Trump has won the New Hampshire GOP primary

America, baby, what is you doing again

cabron_offsets , in Press Conference: Sergey Lavrov, Minister for Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation

Propaganda.

roastedDeflator OP ,
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Lavrov is definitely holding the Russia position. Nothing surprising about that.

Personally I posted this q&a here because it also shows what the journalists of global mass media ask him at this point in time. Taking into concideration your comment, it looks like I need to clarify that I do not support Putin's politics.

roastedDeflator OP , in South Africa v. Israel || International Court of Justice || Live webstream
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To my understanding this is a preliminary rulling.

HeartyBeast ,
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Correct.

Here are the provisional measures the court has made:

  1. Israel must take all measures to prevent any acts that could be considered genocidal - killing members of a group, causing bodily harm, inflicting conditions designed to bring about the destruction of a group, preventing births
  2. Israel must ensure its military does not commit any genocidal acts
    Israel must prevent and punish any public comments that could be considered incitement to commit genocide in Gaza
  3. Israel must take measures to ensure humanitarian access
    Israel must prevent any destruction of evidence that could be used in a genocide case
  4. Israel must submit a report to the court within one moth of this order being given

The court also expressed grave concern about the fate of hostages being held by Hamas and called for their immediate release.

No call for an immediate ceasefire, which is what S. Africa was asking for.

Potatofish , in Palestinians Charge Genocide in U.S. Court; Biden, Blinken Sued for Backing Israel’s War on Gaza

Damn it America, why can’t you police us better!

charonn0 , in Palestinians Charge Genocide in U.S. Court; Biden, Blinken Sued for Backing Israel’s War on Gaza
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The Biden administration is on trial in the United States for failure to prevent the “unfolding genocide” in Gaza.

How is this even a justiciable question?

roastedDeflator OP , (edited )
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I am pretty sure this is not the way it was written in the original filing. Apart from that some clarifications are given in the sentences that follow the first one, the one quoted.

edit: found the following and thought of sharing .

Defense for Children International-Palestine v. Biden || uscourts.gov link with court videos

Plaintiffs, representing Palestinian human rights organizations and individuals, sue the US Government under international human rights law for its failure to exercise influence over Israel to prevent genocide.

FlowVoid ,

The Friday hearing was about the government’s motion to dismiss, basically arguing that this is not a justiciable question.

So we’ll have an answer to your question soon enough.

roastedDeflator OP , (edited )
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To my understanding on Friday it was just the beginning of the hearing of the case, not of the motion to dismiss it.

Lawsuit Seeking to Stop US Aid to Israel Has First Court Hearing in Oakland - kqed

FlowVoid ,

The MTD is one of the first things that a judge needs to decide, and it was argued by the government at that hearing:

It is not the court’s role to sit in judgment of U.S. foreign policy decisions concerning the conflict in Gaza or to assess whether Israel has transgressed limits imposed by international law

Right after that quote in the article, you can find a link to the full MTD.

roastedDeflator OP ,
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The MTD is one of the first things that a judge needs to decide

That makes sense.

It's just that the way your initial comment was:

The Friday hearing was about the government’s motion to dismiss

made me think that this was the only thing discussed.

So briefly, on Friday started the hearings of the case Defense for Children International-Palestine v. Biden, and Biden's defense lawyer said their piece, which was -at least in part- their MTD.

(I haven't watched all the videos yet. Will do to have a better understanding of the case.)

BaldProphet , in Palestinians Charge Genocide in U.S. Court; Biden, Blinken Sued for Backing Israel’s War on Gaza
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Americans had better hope the courts rule in favor of the Biden administration. A ruling for the plaintiffs would be one of the biggest judicial power grabs in American history and trigger a constitutional crisis.

gravitas_deficiency , in Grand Jury Subpoena Issued for Documents from House Sergeant at Arms

What precipitated this request? There doesn’t appear to be any additional context beyond the fact that a subpoena was issued.

MoogleMaestro OP ,
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I don't think we'll know until the Grand Jury comes up with a verdict. I think the likelihood that it's Jan 6 related is high though, given what we know about current ongoing investigations.

gravitas_deficiency ,

Well… yes and no. This is from the house. The clown show is currently in charge of the house. So this could very well be some bullshit wild goose chase that Gym Jordan wanted to kick off as some sort of distraction.

ganksy , in Grand Jury Subpoena Issued for Documents from House Sergeant at Arms
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It’s not yet clear what the subpoena is regarding.

WHYAREWEALLCAPS OP , in "The Myth of Frontier Individualism" from The Southwestern Social Science Quarterly 1941-06: Vol 22 Iss 1

I stumbled across this and I found it particularly interesting that 93 years ago the GOP was being called out for their use of this myth. It is one the GOP has continued to rely heavily on, especially in modern times. It is also interesting that this myth almost never benefited the real frontierspeople, but rather the rich industrialists from the East and Europe. I was hooked after the first paragraph,

There is no more persistent myth in American history than the myth that rugged individualism is or has been the way of American life. Many influences have entered into the creation of this myth, but the man who is chiefly responsible for its general acceptance is Frederick Jackson Turner, who, in 1893, when the western states were loud in their demands for national regulation of industry, said in his now famous Chicago address that the American frontier had promoted democracy—a democracy “‘strong in selfishness and individualism, intolerant of experience and education, and pressing individual liberty beyond its proper bounds.” Its tendency, he said, was anti-social. “It produced antipathy to control, and particularly to any direct control.” It permitted “lax business honor, inflated paper currency and wildcat banking.”*

Sure sounds like not much has changed other than the scale of the belief in this myth.

floofloof ,

Just to be pedantic, it was 83 years ago, not 93.

HarkMahlberg ,
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I find the wording of that a little... strange? "The man chiefly responsible for [the myth's] acceptance" sure sounds like he was warning of all of the dangers that came with it. I wouldn't say he was promoting acceptance of such a culture.

Or am I misreading that? Are they saying Turner was wrong, that such an individualistic streak in American life (then and/or now) is fictional, not actually present?

NateNate60 , in Donald Trump does not have presidential immunity, US court rules

The rule of law prevails

style99 , in Donald Trump does not have presidential immunity, US court rules
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But Neal Katyal, a prominent lawyer who has argued cases before the top court, predicted on X (formerly Twitter) that it will not take up the case.

"Trump's argument is so weak and the Court of Appeals decision so thorough and well done, I can see SCOTUS voting not to hear it," he wrote.

Legal analysts said the methodical nature of the appeals ruling, laid out over 57 pages that are dense with court citations and historical references, sent a clear message.

"What the Court of Appeals said, very politely and very dryly, is 'You're not even close, Trump'. None of these arguments pass the laugh test," Patrick Cotter, a former federal prosecutor, told BBC News.

I can already smell Trump squirming.

PugJesus , in Discussion: If I think Biden is too old, and I want to support a different nominee for the Democrats, what should I do?
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Unfortunately, the chance of the nominee being anyone else is pretty slim, short of Biden having a sudden and severe medical issue. You can lodge a vote for one of his challengers in the primary, but it's little more than a protest vote - not that that should discourage you, but looking at it realistically. Most of the theoretical candidates being put forward to replace Biden have the very, very small issue of not actually running in this election, and that's kind of a pre-requisite to win an election.

mozz OP ,
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Yeah. I looked up who Biden's challengers are for the nomination, and the productive impact of voting for either of them, I think, is 0.

Ezra Klein's article (posted interestingly enough by a user I'm fairly well convinced is a total troll/shill) had a big part in convincing me, and he listed plenty of Democratic "talent", but none of them really seemed all that compelling in terms of maybe being president. Maybe Gavin Newsom.

Gretchen Whitmer, Wes Moore, Jared Polis, Gavin Newsom, Raphael Warnock, Josh Shapiro, Cory Booker, Ro Khanna, Pete Buttigieg, Gina Raimondo, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Chris Murphy, Andy Beshear, J.B. Pritzker

morphballganon , in Discussion: If I think Biden is too old, and I want to support a different nominee for the Democrats, what should I do?

We don’t get to decide who the Dem nominee is when the current President is a Dem who will be running again.

What we can do is urge our representatives to pass legislation enacting ranked-choice or STAR voting, which would cause the parties to put up better candidates as their nominees if they want a chance of winning.

demesisx , in Discussion: If I think Biden is too old, and I want to support a different nominee for the Democrats, what should I do?
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That’s a very sweet request but it’s time for you to wake up. The DNC and GOP work together to make sure that you will NEVER escape austerity. They don’t represent you. They represent the oligarchs that strengthened their grip of electoral politics over the past 40 years to the point of completely and totally co-opting all of us. Ever wonder why the Dems never were able to codify Roe v Wade despite having supermajorities for 6 (non consecutive) years? They don’t want to but they want you to think they do.

Hell, the DNC has been hoping for a low turnout this time because it would favor them. As George Carlin famously said before things were even close to this bad, “it’s a big club and you ain’t in it.”

The only semblance of hope is to wrestle control of local governments and hope it somehow trickles up to the federal level. But, IMO, things are hopeless when young fresh faces can get into Congress saying all the right things then they suddenly start being all buddy-buddy with Nancy Pelosi and voting in favor of genocide.

mozz OP ,
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Well aren't you just a breath of fresh air.

Bernie Sanders was an avowed socialist who came within about 10 feet of the Democratic presidential nomination. He'd have won the general, too (assuming he didn't get assassinated which is not guaranteed). We'd have had a socialist as president who spent and still spends all his time railing against wall street and the US's imperialism.

Yes there are a lot of crooked people in the DNC who tried to kill his chances, and ultimately succeeded. That one time.

But the point is he came pretty fuckin' close and your reaction is to yell MOPE MOPE MOPE YOU NEED TO MOPE MORE in my face.

People who fought for real change, civil rights movement Indian independence American labor movement fall of Communism in Eastern Europe, would FUCKIN KILL to have it as easy as progressives in the US do. No, it's not automatic. What do you want, a "make politics better" lever that's right in your living room so you don't have to get off the couch?

Ask Navalny's parents if they'd rather be up against the DNC

You fuckin defeatist

demesisx ,
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You’re adorably naive. Bernie is a democratic socialist. He would be considered a centrist in any Scandinavian country.

He was cheated badly twice. If you can’t even start from that basic accounting of events, I don’t know why I should even engage in a conversation with you.

Vote harder, guys! 🥴

Edit: You even admitted that they’d have assassinated him had he gotten elected!
EXACTLY.

Then you bring Putin into it! 🤣🤣🤣. Can we stay on the subject of the US? Do you think I’m a Putin supporter? 🤣🤣🤣

Stop being naive.

mozz OP ,
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Ghost of Martin Luther King: So let me get this straight. You say the WRONG people? Are in CHARGE?

You: Yeah man. It's a bitch.

Ghost of Martin Luther King: Fuck, man. Just give up. It's the only way. Throw in the towel, and make sure you whine to people on the internet about how it's hopeless. Like, at every opportunity. "You'll never escape" "things are hopeless" and so on. And, make sure you cloak yourself in a self-serving mantle of wisdom, and talk down to people, and act like what you're doing is helping. And just like that... all of a sudden, things will get better.

You: Wow I'll do exactly that


This will be my last message to you. I hope you got what you were looking for from this interaction.

(Edit: I would have thought this was obvious, but my point about Navalny was to add one more to the list of people who have struggled to make things better against odds that were about 5-10 times more insurmountable than anything faced by progressives in the US. That's a situation you could a lot better describe as "hopeless," although in the long run it's not. But it should throw into a lot sharper relief how much less difficult and dangerous it is trying to work for change in the US. Nothing about Putin; the focus was on Navalny.)

demesisx ,
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The douchiest possible reply. Thanks for the great conversation.

mozz OP ,
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shroomaroomboom , in Discussion: If I think Biden is too old, and I want to support a different nominee for the Democrats, what should I do?

While I think there may be a more viable candidate running, I'll vote for the more popular one, rather than risk splitting the vote.

paysrenttobirds ,

It’s worth voting for who you like in the primary. Sometimes it has an effect even if the nominee isn’t changed. The administration and Democratic party leadership is more than one person.

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