How will the average lemming, Democrat, Republican, American and non-American react when Biden loses this election?

Every once in a while I read a new poll showing how historically unpopular he is. How do you think people individually and in groups will react to this seemingly inevitable (to me) result? How will society react and, if possible, change?

D61 ,

Same as what happened when Hillary lost to Trump.

aaaaaaadjsf , (edited )
@aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net avatar

It’s impossible to know who will win at this point, Biden is historically unpopular, but his opponent will be Trump. Who is very polarising. I still don’t understand how they’ll allow him to run again, but that’s beside the point. Bush Jr stole a whole election and no one did anything to stop it and he also was allowed to run in and win the 2004 election, so anything goes.

It all depends on what happens this year. The election media frenzy hasn’t even properly started. The Democrat voter base can be very easily emotionally manipulated into voting for Biden if liberal media plays it’s cards right. The Republicans and conservatives are screwed, it’s Trump and no one else with the MAGA cult he’s formed around himself. It’s the only chance they have. All their other primary candidates are generic manufacturerd politicians. But Trump guarantees them a passionate voter base, something none of the other candidates have.

Sterile_Technique ,
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not a fan of Biden, but I’d vote for a bag of his toenail clippings over the traitor Donald Trump.

US politics is always a choice of the lesser evil, and every gripe I have about Biden is petty as fuck in contrast to the damage Trump has already done to our country, let alone the potential to compound it if he’s elected again.

To answer your question, I’ll be disappointed in my fellow voters, but if that many people decide to vote against their own interests, then collectively we’ll get what we deserve.

jordanlund ,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Corporate Democrats will be just like 2016: “How could this HAAAAAAPPPEEEENNNNN!!!”

Progressive Democrats: “We fuckin’ TOLD you.”

NoIWontPickaName ,

We deserve everything that happens if they run Biden and lose.

anarchoilluminati ,
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I’m going to do the same thing I did when Trump won last time: laugh at Democrats for allowing this to happen by being uselessly arrogant, anti-Left idiots.

Libs will probably once again be in denial and cry about it for months.

Right-wingers, let’s just hope the most they do is gloat.

Urist ,
@Urist@lemmy.ml avatar

Laughing while fascists rise to power is sad. Hope the US does not bring the rest of the world with them while crashing and burning.

aaaaaaadjsf ,
@aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net avatar

Hope the US does not bring the rest of the world with them while crashing and burning.

They’ve been doing that since the end of the cold war… Iraq, Somalia, Haiti, the Balkans/Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Sudan, Iraq (Again), Afghanistan (again), Libya, Syria, Yemen, Israel - Palestine, Ukraine. Haven’t even mentioned AFRICOM.

How could it get any worse? Will the nukes start flying?

Urist ,
@Urist@lemmy.ml avatar

How could it get any worse? Will the nukes start flying?

Yeah, maybe. Despite the US’ best efforts to fuck things up, much of the people around the world has gotten it better the last hundred years.

aaaaaaadjsf ,
@aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net avatar

Yeah that’s true I guess. I just hope as the world changes, no one does anything crazy with nuclear weapons. Or balkanisation of the major world powers. That could be disastrous.

Urist ,
@Urist@lemmy.ml avatar

Also, I think nihilism in some cases actually displays privilege. Apart from being socialist, I would probably not be the prime target of fascist reactionary and nationalistic behavior. Therefore I do not think I can morally allow myself to laugh about it at all, but rather channel despair into rage and willingness to fight back.

anarchoilluminati ,
@anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net avatar

Honestly, fuck that. It has nothing to do with privilege or nihilism.

I am a prime target of fascism and Nazism, I’m far from a nihilist but I still laugh. Dark comedy exists as a coping mechanism for a reason and the West has done it to itself. It’s not entirely comedic, I am horrified of certain developments that can happen, but I’ll laugh along the way.

Urist ,
@Urist@lemmy.ml avatar

Then I was wrong to assume that privilege of you and you can disregard what I wrote. I tend to assume privilege of those I interact with because in the majority of cases it is true. Most people with privilege also are quite unaware of it. As I think it is our moral imperative to stand up for our comrades in need, I will continue to urge those with positions to act to do so and not get pacified on the expense of those that will seriously hurt from it.

anarchoilluminati ,
@anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net avatar

It’s all good, no offense taken or anything. But have a laugh sometimes too.

I think it helps me at least. It doesn’t mean you take it any less seriously.

OprahsedCreature OP ,

I mean, the liberal denial has started already. Look at the number of downvotes this post has already, compared to the number of valid arguments in the comments. (12 up, 29 down; 23 comments)

It’s not about making a convincing case or appealing to logic or reason, it’s about liberal suppression of dissenting views to preserve a worldview that was already archaic when it was first mainstreamed in the US in order to deny ethnic, sexual, class, and religious minorities a seat at the table with the ever-present and looming cudgel of fascism as the failsafe.

anarchoilluminati ,
@anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net avatar

It’s not about making a convincing case or appealing to logic or reason, it’s about liberal suppression of dissenting views to preserve a worldview that was already archaic when it was first mainstreamed in the US in order to deny ethnic, sexual, class, and religious minorities a seat at the table with the ever-present and looming cudgel of fascism as the failsafe.

Absolutely!

Although, we at Hexbear happily live under an authoritarian Communist dictatorship with a Great Firewall of our own and as such we do not see downvotes. Downvote me all you want, libs.

OprahsedCreature OP ,

One of the many things to love about the bear, comrade ✊ 🐻

CrushKillDestroySwag ,

They’re gonna try to prevent the certification of ballots from red states.

CannotSleep420 ,

This is assuming he doesn’t drop dead from frailty before the election.

aaaaaaadjsf ,
@aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net avatar

That could happen to both Biden and Trump lol. Both are old and unhealthy, and displaying signs of dementia. Trump almost died of COVID while president, and his blood is entirely made up of diet Coke at this point. Biden is just incoherent and constantly says things he shouldn’t say, much to the dismay of his staff. Remember Blinken’s reaction when Biden randomly went on an anti China rant, for no reason at all? Ruined a whole day’s workblinken-pain

Okokimup ,
@Okokimup@lemmy.world avatar

When you assume, it makes an ass out of u.

Sterile_Technique ,
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

…and only u!

The spelling aid on that one has always rubbed me wrong.

jocanib ,

It’s not supposed to help you spell the word? It’s a comment on the danger of assuming things.

Sterile_Technique ,
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

The full bit is “when you assume, it makes an ass of u and me!”

Teacher dropped that line on my class when I was a little dude, with a comedic pause instead of actually articulating “ass”. We all got a kick out of it, the correct spelling of “assume” was instantly and permanently ingrained in our heads, and I’ve heard it referenced quite a few times since.

But after the initial giggle, there’s the “hey wait a minute, if YOU assume, that only makes an ass of YOU!”

frightful_hobgoblin ,

assyoume

Itsamelemmy ,

Is he less popular than Trump? Because while I don’t think there’s going to be the same voter turnout as last election, I think he can still beat Trump. And if Trump gets disqualified his chances are probably even better. I mean, I don’t like Biden, and don’t think he did a good enough job to vote for him again. I still will, because the GOP is a fucking disgrace.

AndrasKrigare ,

By …fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/ it looks like he’s about as popular (or unpopular depending how you look at it) as Trump was at this point in their presidencies

Philo ,
@Philo@sh.itjust.works avatar

Wouldn’t that depend on who wins?

OprahsedCreature OP ,

Does anyone genuinely believe that Biden will win at this point?

gregorum ,
@gregorum@lemm.ee avatar

at this point, it’s genuinely unclear whether Trump will even be allowed on the ballot in enough states to win— or possibly on any ballots at all. there’s a legitimate possibility that Trump may, if fact, be disqualified from running for president at all.

MeetInPotatoes ,

I don’t confidently predict anything for the upcoming election. I couldn’t possibly count the amount of random shit that could happen between now and then.

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