CableMonster ,

Hold up, if they didnt count citizenship on the last census then it would obviously impact federal elections because it would increase the number of congress and electoral votes in the state with more illegals in it.

nutsack ,

Why the fuck would non-citizens want to vote so badly that they would risk their situation to do it? It makes no sense at all

Bytemeister ,

The point is to rile up their chuds enough to go out and harass citizens who look like they may not be citizens (racial minorities) in order to scare them away from legally voting.

Avg ,

I pointed this out to a conservative coworker years ago . He asked me if illegal immigrants voted since I am an immigrant. I told him “if American’s don’t vote what makes you think immigrants would”, he just replied with “right, that makes sense”.

scaredoftrumpwinning ,

But there not worried about foreign money influencing the campaign.

Agrivar ,

You didn’t know? Money - all money - is automatically granted U.S. citizenship upon minting.

AngryCommieKender ,

Thanks, Citizens United.

cultsuperstar ,

What about the registered Republican voters that have voted twice for Trump in 2020 and got busted? That’s not a myth.

GroundedGator ,

I mean “vote early vote often” was a phrase out of Chicago and I’m pretty sure the Jungle was based in a bit of truth.

No, I don’t Believe this is actually happening, just pointing out there may have been some truth to it.

hitmyspot ,

Men have been to the moon. It doesn’t mean the moon is accessible.

Having a basis in truth as a concept is not the same as being a common occurrence that should foster concern.

Using one to cause the other is pretty disingenuous.

yesman ,

This is older than than NPR admits. The threat of foreign others “ruining the country” by voting goes back to 1865 and emancipated black men getting the franchise.

oxjox ,
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The false notion that undocumented immigrants are affecting federal elections has been floating around for over 100 years.

The fact that we haven’t dispelled a myth for a hundred years does not give me a lot of hope of convincing people they may be wrong.

Moreover, how it is at all possible for figure heads like Trump and Musk continue to get away with these lies and convince people the lies are facts, is just… I just don’t even know. I can’t wrap my head around it. It’s got a very “flat earth” vibe to it.

Great article. Lots of good points I’m sure no one who actually has a concern over this will bother to read.

davel , (edited )
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I can’t wrap my head around it.

Tump and Musk know exactly what they’re doing. The capitalist class uses racism and immigrant fearmongering to sow working class division and keep its focus away from its real enemy: the capitalist class.

Edit to add: Capitalists, often illegally, exploit immigrants for cheap labor, so you know their rhetoric is bullshit. How Capitalism Perpetuates Immigration

PoliticalAgitator ,

The fact that we haven’t dispelled a myth for a hundred years does not give me a lot of hope of convincing people they may be wrong

The people pushing it are probably aware it’s not true and definitely don’t care either way. They want cult members to threaten and intimidate anyone brown because the numbers say they’re more likely to vote Democrat.

mindbleach ,

Not aided by putting their propaganda at the front of your headline.

God dammit.

some_guy ,

No, see, the people who are allowed to vote choose to vote five hundred times… /s

herrcaptain ,

The way I see it is that most actual citizens can’t even be bothered to vote. Why would a non-citizen spend the time, effort, and (in their case) risk to do it?

I’m sure it’s happened before, but only at a miniscule scale.

atro_city ,

The party owned by Putin is concerned about foreign influence. Interesting.

Haus ,
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As opposed to foreign autocrats like Putin buying votes, which is perfectly fine... Perfectly fine.

stevedidwhat_infosec ,

Everyone always talks about govt/buisnesses taking bribes from the rich, but never about the rich taking bribes from foreign companies/govts.

Pretty interesting alternative “political system” we’ve installed with our current economic system. Surely not a backdoor to ruin any current govt systems or hold them hostage

atro_city ,

Foreign autocrats don't need to buy the votes, they buy the politicians directly.

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