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queermunist ,
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Do any of you think this matters?

ForestOrca ,
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Yes.

queermunist ,
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lol

whofearsthenight ,

I mean, given all of the other laws and such that he broke blatantly while in office, fuck no lol. Emoluments, Hatch act violations, the very obvious fact that either impeachment would have succeeded if republicans even pretended for a second to be principled and supported the constitution, etc.

Just toss it on the pile.

socsa ,

It will eventually. Incompetence and stupidity might not catch up with you immediately, but it’s like an immortal snail tirelessly pursuing you. Eventually it will get you.

queermunist ,
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Idealism.

There are, in fact, incompetent people that lived their whole lives facing zero consequences.

stephen01king ,

Such as?

queermunist ,
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Are you seriously asking for proof of people failing upwards? Just, never run into this before? Never seen a white man get promotion after promotion despite failing at everything he does? This is not an unknown phenomenon! It usually doesn’t reach the presidency… but o you expect George Bush to go to prison for his war crimes? Or even stop being invited to fancy dinners with celebrities?

We live in hell.

NattyNatty2x4 ,

Looooot of people are emotionally invested in the idea of karma/people eventually getting what they deserve. It’s really uncomfortable for them to be told that the real world is littered with narcissists and assholes who live a full and fulfilling life, never seeing true consequences for their actions

queermunist ,
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It’s a cope. They need to believe in divine fairness in the world to feel like life has any meaning or is worth living. It’s the same reason people believe in an afterlife with divine reward and punishment or in a next life where their current life determines how they reincarnate in the cycle. If life is just random horrible bullshit and there is no justice and there is no point and it all comes down to luck, then what was it all for???

I sympathize.

stephen01king ,

I’m asking for one example of someone living their whole life with zero consequence, like you claimed.

The original argument was not that there are no example of falling upwards, but that the consequence always come to bite them in the ass, even if it takes a while. You argued there are in fact people who lived their whole lives facing zero consequence for their actions, so that means it should be easy for you to show me one such example.

queermunist ,
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I gave you one - George W. Bush

APassenger ,

He’d need to be convicted. There would have to be a trial. For that, we’d need an indictment. I really wanted to think that would happen by now.

ComradeKhoumrag ,
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The more time and research you put into an investigation, the more likely you are to succeed. The time constraint is going to trial before elections, but you also want to max out time to prepare

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