@rbreich This was a car crash debate for both sides. The problem, though, is that the Orange One has set the bar so low and curbed all expectations of him acting like a decent human being that it was just another Tuesday in MAGA-land. By their standards, the Orange One delivered 100%. Biden did not deliver 100%. Even though he still looked like Genius compared with the Orange One, he did not in comparison to the 2020 Biden. In a "rematch", this is fatal.